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Old 11-15-2013, 06:29 PM
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None of these mergers should have gone through. Consumers are getting totally shafted.
This is one of the reasons I would like to see people fly out of LBE and use Spirit. I think it is time for the tail to wag the dog. Enough is enough. We are not cattle and I am tired of being treated as such.
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Old 11-15-2013, 06:46 PM
 
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We are not cattle and I am tired of being treated as such.
LOL

Perfectly fine to use Spirit at LBE if that's your thing, but that is one ironic sentence to use in conjunction with it. "Self-loading cargo" has never been more apt.
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Old 11-15-2013, 07:18 PM
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LOL

Perfectly fine to use Spirit at LBE if that's your thing, but that is one ironic sentence to use in conjunction with it. "Self-loading cargo" has never been more apt.
I have heard nothing but good things about Spirit. It is kind of like wine. There are $100 dollar bottles that taste like crap and there are $20 bottles that are great. If you read what you are in for and are an educated traveller, there is no problem with Spirit. It are the people that don't travel much and remember back in the day that most people travel well dressed and such instead of pajama pants as they do these days that don't understand Spirit and they are under the impression that flying folks get respect. We don't and it is like taking a cab these days. Learn and then respond please.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:23 PM
 
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I do read and learn quite a lot actually. For example I read and learned very recently that Spirit has by far the lowest seat pitch of any US airline. Seat pitch if you're not familiar with the term is the distance from the back of one seat to the back of the next, thus the measure of how much seat and leg room you get. Sprit's seat pitch alone falls into my definition of being treated like cattle.

I can infer from your post that you haven't actually flown them either. Regardless of what your conclusion is if you ever actually do, one thing that's clear is there is no chance Spirit treats you any LESS like cattle. The big gain by going to LBE is a calm small airport. It is not the airline experience which is nothing but shades of mediocre to bad for all US airlines.

Thus, it was ironic to see you mention not being treated like cattle in regards to flying on Spirit. It is not actually possible to fly and not be treated like cattle unless it is by private plane. Or possibly flying a foreign airline although you still get the bad airport treatment on the US end of those flights.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:39 PM
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… to bad for all US airlines.
Please explain how Spirit is bad for all US airlines? I think it is great someone is up the butts of the majors, so they will provide us a good travel experience for a decent price. As it is now, we are getting creamed if you need to fly.
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:35 PM
 
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Please explain how Spirit is bad for all US airlines?
Learn how to read and then respond, please.

I didn't say anything of the sort. I am all for competition, am in agreement with the rest of what you wrote just there.

What I said prior to that, which you did not read correctly, is that the service on all US airlines is mediocre to bad.

It is very difficult to avoid being treated like cattle when dealing with ANY of the US airlines, Spirit included. You might come close if you can buy first class tix. Spirit has a few extra cost larger seats on the plane, not going to decrease the cattle effect much but at least you'd have a reasonable amount of room.

It is also fairly difficult to avoid being treated like a criminal at any US airport. It is mostly a separate issue, but it is something that is hard to avoid even if you can afford first class.

All adds up to cattle for me, including LBE and Spirit.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:35 AM
 
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I do read and learn quite a lot actually. For example I read and learned very recently that Spirit has by far the lowest seat pitch of any US airline. Seat pitch if you're not familiar with the term is the distance from the back of one seat to the back of the next, thus the measure of how much seat and leg room you get. Sprit's seat pitch alone falls into my definition of being treated like cattle.

I can infer from your post that you haven't actually flown them either. Regardless of what your conclusion is if you ever actually do, one thing that's clear is there is no chance Spirit treats you any LESS like cattle. The big gain by going to LBE is a calm small airport. It is not the airline experience which is nothing but shades of mediocre to bad for all US airlines.

Thus, it was ironic to see you mention not being treated like cattle in regards to flying on Spirit. It is not actually possible to fly and not be treated like cattle unless it is by private plane. Or possibly flying a foreign airline although you still get the bad airport treatment on the US end of those flights.
If the price is right, I'll sit on a bucket.
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Old 11-16-2013, 08:10 AM
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If the price is right, I'll sit on a bucket.
Exactly. Free parking, cheap seat for a couple hour or so flight. It isn't like it is some transatlantic flight.
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Old 11-16-2013, 10:07 AM
 
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Exactly. Free parking, cheap seat for a couple hour or so flight. It isn't like it is some transatlantic flight.
That is where most casual passengers are in their thinking, and for good reason. No disagreement there.

But what I read above was this:

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This is one of the reasons I would like to see people fly out of LBE and use Spirit. I think it is time for the tail to wag the dog. Enough is enough. We are not cattle and I am tired of being treated as such.
It suggests going to Latrobe would help one avoid being treated like cattle. I still think it is funny that anyone would dream of equating the two, given the nature of the airline industry.
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Old 11-18-2013, 07:54 AM
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It suggests going to Latrobe would help one avoid being treated like cattle. I still think it is funny that anyone would dream of equating the two, given the nature of the airline industry.
Sure, the smaller airports are so much nicer. Sarasota comes to mind. Nice little airport.
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