06-15-2011, 06:18 AM
Location: Crafton, PA
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Public Service Announcement: Bitterness and frustration arising from Penn state being irrelevant and playing second fiddle to OSU and Michigan this past decade has led to the above post.
What I DON'T get is the general bitter vibe from PSU fans (even their administration) that Pitt is just a fill in because a few dates were open and nothing more. Kind of like they were slotting another Akron or Temple into the schedule. Have a little respect for a great rivalry, people! Even those four games from 97-00 were great games that spiked interest (from BOTH sides). And Pitt was MUCH more irrelevant back then (and PSU more of a power).
I think PSU is a little scared to renew the series. They still have a dominance when it comes to PA football, even though it has been diminished. Losing games to Pitt would only serve to further shift the balance of power.
06-15-2011, 06:25 AM
Location: Crafton, PA
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Agreed!
Rumor has it that PSU has been amicable to the 2 game home/away for a number of years and that Pitt was holding out for something longer. Hopefully two great games will help extend the series. Of course by that times schedules will probably be set through 2025!
06-15-2011, 09:55 AM
Location: southwestern PA
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Actually, Penn State - JoePa in particular - never wanted a home/away with Pitt.
06-15-2011, 11:48 AM
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The Big East is designed to be tops in basketball and is as you say pretty useless in football. That's why the football power teams left.
No, the ACC and Big East were pretty much on par in both football and basketball. The leverage the ACC had is Miami obviously was a better fit geographically in the ACC and that pulled BC and VT. VT was able to twist Virginia's arm through Virginia's lawmakers to get in instead of Syracuse.
However, rivalries transcend any logic you can throw at them. I see Georgia Tech get beaten by Georgia year after year and they are in different conferences. But no one would even think of ending our "Good ol'fashioned hate".
06-15-2011, 11:57 AM
Location: Just East of the Southern Portion of the Western Part of PA
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The rivalry really is held by middle aged folks in Western PA that still remember the good ol' days. Today's students at Penn State really don't care about Pitt anymore.
06-15-2011, 12:10 PM
Location: Crafton, PA
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I think current Pitt students are generally the same way. The general dislike is there but its tempered since we are 11 years removed from the last game. It still beats the heck out of games with MAC teams or teams like East Tennessee State every year. Wouldn't take much to really get the rivalry rekindled.
06-15-2011, 12:18 PM
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Public Service Announcement: Bitterness and frustration arising from Penn state being irrelevant and playing second fiddle to OSU and Michigan this past decade has led to the above post.
Maybe now that OSU's program is in shambles, Penn State may actually have a chance at winning the Big Ten this year? Then again, they still have to go through Michigan and that unbeatable powerhouse that is Iowa, so it's pretty unlikely.
Every Penn State fan I know talks up their conference and how they have to play Michigan and OSU and OOC opponents like Alabama....but 9 times out of 10 they LOSE those games. Every year it's the same story in Happy Valley, they roll over teams like Akron, Temple, and Syracuse by 50 or 60 points, move into the top-10, get everyone on their bandwagon and then lay an egg as soon as they see that O or M on the opposition's helmet.
Penn State has been second fiddle in the Big Ten since they joined. Pitt hasn't done anything great lately either, but at least there's not this delusional elitist attitude coming from the Panther faithful.
Penn State draws over 100,000 a game to watch a mediocre football team. Pitt is lucky to draw 30,000 to watch an equally mediocre football team. It's not because their program is superior, it's because there's nothing else to do in State College. Give those 100,000 people the kind of entertainment options that Pittsburgh has on a Saturday afternoon and see how many of them pay to watch their mediocre football team.
06-15-2011, 12:25 PM
Location: Just East of the Southern Portion of the Western Part of PA
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Penn State draws over 100,000 a game to watch a mediocre football team. Pitt is lucky to draw 30,000 to watch an equally mediocre football team. It's not because their program is superior, it's because there's nothing else to do in State College. Give those 100,000 people the kind of entertainment options that Pittsburgh has on a Saturday afternoon and see how many of them pay to watch their mediocre football team.
This argument makes no sense - do you really think that there are 110000 people living in State College that have nothing else to do but go to a football game?
Those 110000 fans travel from all over the eastern seaboard to watch PSU play - they don't live in State College.
I hope that you were just joking and are in fact aware of the population of State College....
06-15-2011, 12:50 PM
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Maybe now that OSU's program is in shambles, Penn State may actually have a chance at winning the Big Ten this year? Then again, they still have to go through Michigan and that unbeatable powerhouse that is Iowa, so it's pretty unlikely.
This is just a dumb comment from someone that obviously doesn't even watch football. They had a bad year in 2010, fine. From 2005-2009 they averaged 10 wins a year and won 2 big 10 titles in 4 years, but ignored all of that and claim they're mediocre based on one poor year? And the people talking up Michigan are nuts. Didn't psu put up an Avg of like 48 points per game on Michigan the last three beating they gave the wolverines?
RichRod was a joke and got taken behind the woodshed by JoePa, repeatedly. Also, how does JoePa's recruiting look so far?
Seriously, Penn state-pitt is like watching stillers vs browns. Like the browns, pitt fans talk a ridiculous amount of trash for a team that has achieved absolutely nothing since 1985. Just like how Browns fans talk up all of their " championships" back in the 40s and 50s, pitt fans pathetically brag about having 9 national titles, despite only 1 coming after the great depression. Stick to bragging about your basketball team pitt folks. Talking up your football team makes you look delusion. Oh yeah, Rushell Shell isnt going to pitt either. He knows a loser when he sees one...he plays for Hopewell where he can run for 400 yards and still lose 24-21.
06-15-2011, 12:57 PM
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Actually, Penn State - JoePa in particular - never wanted a home/away with Pitt.
It's because JoPa is averse to travel and wants more home games. Probably why PSU plays Temple so much. PSU typically has 7 to 8 home games.
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Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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