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Old 07-13-2011, 07:50 AM
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Funny to read the reviews of the place. Wow, seems it is getting attention.


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Old 07-13-2011, 07:51 AM
 
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i don't think so - the legality of their policy will rest on whether it's legally considered discriminatory to ban kids of certain ages (and i am pretty sure it is not), not on whether the presence of kids was a concrete problem in the restaurant in the past.
As someone pointed out earlier children have very few individual rights until they become adults. That being the case, I think it all depends upon the angle the owner takes in defense of his rule. If he can prove that unruly behavior is leading to hazardous environment for adult patrons then it might fly. If kids are running around and bumping into waiters or tables and food ends up on the floor often enough then such a ban might be legitimized.
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Are you serious? I think he'll get more business. I plan to eat there sometime after the initial swell of new patrons dies down. .
Yes, I'm serious. No one's going to be able to take thier family out to dinner there anymore, even if they are well behaved children.

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No one belongs in a restaurant who can't behave, and "he's just a baby" is no excuse for someone screaming at the top of his lungs or banging his toy car on the table while other people are trying to enjoy a nice meal. I wish every restaurant disallowed people who can't or won't behave, for whatever reason.
It's not just kids under 6. It's preteens, teenagers and drunk barflys over age 21. It looks like they are trying to cater to the bar patrons. If that's the case, he's going to be a hypocrite.
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Old 07-13-2011, 08:05 AM
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It's not just kids under 6. It's preteens, teenagers and drunk barflys over age 21. It looks like they are trying to cater to the bar patrons. If that's the case, he's going to be a hypocrite.
It is an interesting view, but I believe we still are in the US and that being said an owner can cater to whoever they like. If you don't like it, you don't go there. Pretty simple. Not sure why people would get upset over it? Hooters was gone after very hard because the style of the restaurants was all about women in a certain outfit and of course the name, Hooters. It made me sick that there was a group or so that was all crazy after them for having a style. These freedoms of owners of establishments need to be intact, if nothing else, for freedom sake. Goodness, no one wants everything the exact same. What choices would we have?

The answer is simple. If you don't like the rule in place, just don't go. Not a big deal either way. There are countless places for kids. Most every place except smoking bars. If I was to open a really high end restaurant I would have a no child under 10 policy. There is a time and place for kids. They have a 99% run of about everywhere and if there is some tiny place that is off limits, who cares?
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Old 07-13-2011, 08:08 AM
 
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It is an interesting view, but I believe we still are in the US and that being said an owner can cater to whoever they like. If you don't like it, you don't go there. Pretty simple. Not sure why people would get upset over it? Hooters was gone after very hard because the style of the restaurants was all about women in a certain outfit and of course the name, Hooters. It made me sick that there was a group or so that was all crazy after them for having a style. These freedoms of owners of establishments need to be intact, if nothing else, for freedom sake. Goodness, no one wants everything the exact same. What choices would we have?

The answer is simple. If you don't like the rule in place, just don't go. Not a big deal either way. There are countless places for kids. Most every place except smoking bars. If I was to open a really high end restaurant I would have a no child under 10 policy. There is a time and place for kids. They have a 99% run of about everywhere and if there is some tiny place that is off limits, who cares?
How often have we seen a sign posted in a retail establishment or restaurant stating "we have the right to refuse anyone service" or "no admittance without shoes and a shirt" etc.? Pretty clear in the eyes of the law here I think that the owner can decide whom or whom not to serve.

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Old 07-13-2011, 08:09 AM
 
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Personally, I get sick and tired of bawling children whenever I go out to eat, especially when I'm with a woman. Nothing destroys a romantic mood like a hysterical child. They're loud and out of place. If you have enough money to enjoy fine dining, then you have enough money to hire a babysitter like my parents did when I was too young for fine dining.
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Old 07-13-2011, 08:10 AM
 
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It's not just kids under 6. It's preteens, teenagers and drunk barflys over age 21. It looks like they are trying to cater to the bar patrons. If that's the case, he's going to be a hypocrite.
I don't know the place, so I don't know if your "cater to the bar patrons" is anything more than speculation on your part. But even if it is, very little is as annoying to me in restaurants as kids who scream, cry, carry on, run around, play with beeping toys, and bang toys on tables.
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Old 07-13-2011, 08:21 AM
 
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I just want to know, to the people who are in favor of the ban, do you have kids?
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Old 07-13-2011, 08:36 AM
 
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I just want to know, to the people who are in favor of the ban, do you have kids?
I do not. But if I did I would not expect everyone to cater to them.

I wonder how many kids actually care about this.
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Old 07-13-2011, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I don't know the place, so I don't know if your "cater to the bar patrons" is anything more than speculation on your part. But even if it is, very little is as annoying to me in restaurants as kids who scream, cry, carry on, run around, play with beeping toys, and bang toys on tables.
I don't know the place myself, so I'm just guessing/speculating. But kids that act unruly aren't going to be unruly in just restaurants, but in stores, church, busses. Are they going to ban kids at these places too?
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