Pitt Applies for membership in ACC (Penn: moving to, schedule, Irish)

[cry_havoc]

Originally Posted by safak

no they don't.

because the deals are open for anyone to see. not only does the ACC make more money, the media rights they retain are more valuable than 1 3rd tier football game. the exposure they get for every sport is better.

and ill repeat it.

the straight cash is better.

you are touting a contract you did not sign, 2 big 10 reports said they were going to sign in ...but didn't. if you do great, but until you do..your wrong.


espn has actually denied even negotiating the existing contract, so there goes your espn claim..

ESPN is busy hailing the end of the ACC right now.

The current deal is a cop out for the ACC.

THe Big 12 teams make more money total, without considering tier 3 rights, and with tier 3 rights make even more money. ACC has no money advantage on them, in any way. It is better than the Big E, but not on par with any of the 4 real football conferences.

[sskink]

It's funny watching the two of you go at this like it's the end of the world and Pittsburgh is some cow-town that won't have anything to do if "big-time" college FB exits.

Pretty much all of us from New England grew up w/o D1 football and went on to have full lives :-)

[cry_havoc]

Originally Posted by sskink

It's funny watching the two of you go at this like it's the end of the world and Pittsburgh is some cow-town that won't have anything to do if "big-time" college FB exits.

Pretty much all of us from New England grew up w/o D1 football and went on to have full lives :-)

Nobody said Pittsburgh would be a cowtown. I love Pittsburgh and it was one of my favorite cities. It doesnt even need a good college team, as it as the Steelers, who are beloved by the city. Ive never seen a city so loyal to its football team, and Hockey team, as Pittsburgh. Pitt is another matter and much of the population is apathetic to Pitt, or even hostile.

The thing is Pitt is in danger of going into a division 2 football league. For those of us who care about College Football this matters a lot.

I am merely the bringer of bad news.

[safak]

we aren't really going at it so much..
he spouts nonsense,
i give him facts with links/numbers to back it up.
.he says 'pitt stinks'
i give him more stats, numbers, proof
he says 'yeah but pitt stinks wvu finished 23rd this year and only lost to syracuse by 30 points in football'

etc etc.

now i know the facts aren't doing him any good, but the casual bystander can look at them and realize the truth. if it was a one on one conversation in private, it wouldn't have lasted more than 20 seconds..i have little kids i hear enough incoherent ramblings and make believe in real life.


i mean i showed the actual contracts ...and he still has some inside information that they are wrong. the rest of the world doesnt know it. espn denied it. the whole story was outed as a fabrication to feign strength but some bumpkin from masontown knows the behind-the-scene details? sorry..doesn't fly in the real world.

[cry_havoc]

Originally Posted by safak

now i know the facts aren't doing him any good, but the casual bystander can look at them and realize the truth. if it was a one on one conversation in private, it wouldn't have lasted more than 20 seconds..i have little kids i hear enough incoherent ramblings and make believe in real life.

No one is seeing your truth, other than other Pitt grads that cant face the fact their school made a mistake.

The ACC is irrelevant. Everyone knows that.

You can dismiss the obvious, and try to pretend to be tough over the internet.

[UKyank]

Originally Posted by safak

i mean i showed the actual contracts ...and he still has some inside information that they are wrong. the rest of the world doesnt know it. espn denied it. the whole story was outed as a fabrication to feign strength but some bumpkin from masontown knows the behind-the-scene details? sorry..doesn't fly in the real world.

Just add in ACC & Pitt to the sign & the level of devotion & irrationality seems about the same

[cry_havoc]

Originally Posted by UKyank

Just add in ACC & Pitt to the sign & the level of devotion & irrationality seems about the same

It is not the end of them. They will still exist. Just as a 2nd division team.

[JD984]

Originally Posted by UKyank

Just add in ACC & Pitt to the sign & the level of devotion & irrationality seems about the same

From what I've seen, when this poster gets fixated on a topic - whether it's Pitt applying for ACC membership or the standing of Morgantown relative to other cities in West Virginia (none of which he seems to like very much), he's like a dog with a bone. We should assume that he'll need to have the last word on the topic, regardless of whether it reflects much more than his personal predictions and efforts to boost WVU's standing relative to other schools.

[cry_havoc]

I hate to be the bearer of even more bad news for Pitt, but

The news surrounding Big 12 expansion is moving much more quickly after word of the Big 12/SEC bowl alliance came out late this past week. The latest news I can report is that Clemson has agreed in principle to leave the ACC for the Big 12.
While no similar agreement is in place with FSU, word is that the administration has “come around” on the issue, and they will follow Clemson’s lead in short order. From the moment it became clear that FSU’s Board of Trustees wanted to make the move, it has been basically a fait accompli.
It is happening, and quickly.

Full story

[cry_havoc]

I have even more bad news for Pitt and the ACC.

According to two people with the strongest ties possible to Florida State's Athletic Department, FSU fully plans on exiting the Atlantic Coast Conference. Florida State will begin its transition to the Big 12 Conference beginning this June. One source went as far as to say, "at this point the move is inevitable."
Important dates to watch will be: May 30th, the Big 12 will have its conference meetings. June 15th, the new commissioner of the Big 12 when Bob Bowlsby will take office and August 15th, the deadline for any institution to withdraw from the ACC.

ACC is OVER

Good luck finding a new conference. Hope our rivalry can continue regardless of where you end up.