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Old 12-09-2011, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Kittanning
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It seems some people want to ignore the facts that Uniontown has an average crime rate and a vibrant downtown, and instead focus on the negative. If people in Pittsburgh were this negative, downtown wouldn't have new apartments and condos selling out, East Liberty wouldn't have a Target, and the McCook mansion would have been left abandoned. Fortunately, there are a lot of people in Uniontown who believe in their town, as evidenced by how beautiful it is there and all the revitalization that is occurring. I don't know why it bothers some Uniontown natives when someone visits their town and says how nice it is. Why should that bother you? Why do you want everyone to see your town as something bad?
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Old 12-10-2011, 05:02 AM
 
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Not sure what crime statistics you're checking but Uniontown is mentioned quite often on the Pittsburgh TV news for crime. Does this sound like a town with a low crime rate?

Gang of teenage girls continues to terrorize Uniontown - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
Have lived in Uniontown my whole life and never had any crime issues here. I think if you are careful and don't put yourself in inappropriate situations, lock doors and are aware of your surroundings most places are safe. But Uniontown, come on this place is not dangerous.
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Greensburg, PA
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It seems some people want to ignore the facts that Uniontown has an average crime rate and a vibrant downtown, and instead focus on the negative. If people in Pittsburgh were this negative, downtown wouldn't have new apartments and condos selling out, East Liberty wouldn't have a Target, and the McCook mansion would have been left abandoned. Fortunately, there are a lot of people in Uniontown who believe in their town, as evidenced by how beautiful it is there and all the revitalization that is occurring. I don't know why it bothers some Uniontown natives when someone visits their town and says how nice it is. Why should that bother you? Why do you want everyone to see your town as something bad?
Some of the people in that area tend to be those who are backwards thinking, I'm sure you already knew that but this is Fayette County were talking about. The scenery may be beautiful but some of the people simply aren't that bright, not to offend anyone else in that county who has the slightest amount of common sense.
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Old 12-10-2011, 10:09 PM
 
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It seems some people want to ignore the facts that Uniontown has an average crime rate and a vibrant downtown, and instead focus on the negative. If people in Pittsburgh were this negative, downtown wouldn't have new apartments and condos selling out, East Liberty wouldn't have a Target, and the McCook mansion would have been left abandoned. Fortunately, there are a lot of people in Uniontown who believe in their town, as evidenced by how beautiful it is there and all the revitalization that is occurring. I don't know why it bothers some Uniontown natives when someone visits their town and says how nice it is. Why should that bother you? Why do you want everyone to see your town as something bad?
Comparing people in Uniontown to people in Pittsburgh is apples/oranges.

Uniontown: no major universities, not a lot of job or career opportunities, people lack education, the biggest employer was and may still be the government, no major sports teams, no international airport.... well you get the picture.

As for the "revitalization"? That was by one egomaniac who thought he could turn the town around. Spent a fortune of his own money and it did squat. Quite difficult to do when the average yearly salary of the town is around 20k per year and no one wants to invest in this black hole on earth.

Santa in Uniontown

//www.city-data.com/forum/pitts...alization.html < (post #3 sums it up)


Most people I know who made it out, are glad they did so. They have thriving careers and real life experiences. The ones I know who never left, seem to be lacking in communication skills, career prospects, current events and are just plain lost in life.

Go spend every other weekend there, tell us about all of the things there are to do. I took my gal from Atlanta up there and we covered everything in the city and surrounding areas in 3 days. She won't go back, lol.
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Old 12-10-2011, 10:21 PM
 
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If you grew up less than a mile from Pershing Court, then you must know that you grew up in the absolute worst area of Uniontown. Surely, you must know that there is more to Uniontown than the rat-infested dump called East End, right? If that's all you've ever known of Uniontown, then I kind of feel sorry for you. Obviously, you had a very poor childhood.
Now, now.. these types of personal attacks aren't helpful to the discussion. Don't ever try and get a job as a Profiler... I had an excellent childhood.
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:01 AM
 
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A lot of your comments seem to contradict each other. You say that we cannot compare Pittsburgh to Uniontown because it's comparing apples to oranges. I don't disagree and I doubt anyone else does either. But, you originally compared Uniontown to the Hill District, which started all of this nonsense to begin with. Which is it?

Again, you claim the area is dangerous and say that you know because you grew up there and saw some sh*t, then you claim that you had a good childhood. Which is it? Either Uniontown is a violent hellhole and you grew up there and had a terrible childhood, or you had a good childhood and didn't witness violence at all. If you had such a good childhood growing up in Uniontown, why all the negativity about the place? Why the comparison to the Hill District? Your statements aren't consistant.

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Comparing people in Uniontown to people in Pittsburgh is apples/oranges.
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Yes everyone needs to run to Uniontown for a visit! Don't worry, no one has been murdered since 2002. You'll be perfectly ok as long as you visit at 4pm, take a couple of pics, and leave town immediately. Be sure not to stray to far away from the cute little restaurant or theater though - bad things might happen to people who have been told about this "nice little city". And considering I grew up less than a mile away from this incident below, and then delivered pizza in and around the Hill District later in life, I might just know what I'm talking about.
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I had an excellent childhood.
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Old 12-11-2011, 06:58 AM
 
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A lot of your comments seem to contradict each other. You say that we cannot compare Pittsburgh to Uniontown because it's comparing apples to oranges. I don't disagree and I doubt anyone else does either. But, you originally compared Uniontown to the Hill District, which started all of this nonsense to begin with. Which is it?

Again, you claim the area is dangerous and say that you know because you grew up there and saw some sh*t, then you claim that you had a good childhood. Which is it? Either Uniontown is a violent hellhole and you grew up there and had a terrible childhood, or you had a good childhood and didn't witness violence at all. If you had such a good childhood growing up in Uniontown, why all the negativity about the place? Why the comparison to the Hill District? Your statements aren't consistant.
First, I was responding to Allegheny Angel, first regarding the crime, and then the revitalization.

Second, the topic is Uniontown, not me. I am flattered by your puppy dog attention, though.
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Old 12-11-2011, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh PA
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I have actually been thinking about a comparison to Uniontown because the Hill District is just far too different. A mon valley town such as West Mifflin would better fit the bill, both were once more dominant than they are now and have a certain sense of being a "forgotten city".
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Old 12-11-2011, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Kittanning
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As for the "revitalization"? That was by one egomaniac who thought he could turn the town around. Spent a fortune of his own money and it did squat. Quite difficult to do when the average yearly salary of the town is around 20k per year and no one wants to invest in this black hole on earth.
I guess you would prefer downtown Uniontown to look like South Brownsville or McKeesport? Instead, downtown Uniontown is vibrant and pretty and has more in common with downtown Greensburg. We should be thanking people who invest money in fixing up these downtowns. That's what these places need! Cities (even small ones) that do not invest in their downtowns are allowing all development to move to the suburbs.

There are quite a few businesses and upscale restaurants along Uniontown's Main Street, along with the restored theater. That is way more than many downtowns in the region have, especially considering the population is only 10k.

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Old 12-11-2011, 05:02 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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Crime statistics for Uniontown can be found on the city-data site here: //www.city-data.com/city/Uniont...nsylvania.html

As you will be able to see, the statistics are comparable to the US average crime index. Uniontown hasn't had a homicide since 2002.
This murder occurred in North Union Township just outside Uniontown.

Man stabbed to death in Fayette County
Sunday, December 11, 2011
By Karen Kane: kkane@post-gazette.com or at 724-772-9180.,
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

A Fayette County man was stabbed to death during a domestic dispute and his partner has been arrested, according to authorities.

Ronald Mudery, 47, of Lemont Furnace, was pronounced dead at 10 p.m. Saturday at Allegheny General Hospital, North Side.

An autopsy will be conducted today by the Allegheny County Medical Examiner's Office.

State police at Uniontown said Debra A. Becker, 41, has been charged with criminal homicide.

The incident occurred at their home on Turkeyfoot Road in North Union Township.

Police said Ms. Becker also was injured.

A spokesman for the medical examiner said Mr. Mudery was stabbed multiple times in his abdomen.



Read more: Man stabbed to death in Fayette County
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