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Old 12-14-2011, 01:38 PM
 
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I agree, that predictability improves safety. The problem is, everyone interprets what everyone else is doing differently, so the ways that you decide to deviate from the law are different from the ways that another person decides to deviate from the law, therefore creating a situation of unpredictability. The easiest way to be predictable is to follow the laws.
No, the easiest way to be predictable is to drive like those around you. The majority of the people on the road haven't read traffic laws since they were 16.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:45 PM
 
Location: ɥbɹnqsʇʇıd
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Sometimes I wish there was more enforcement of traffic laws. People blow through stop signs and red lights. I've been noticing the variation on the Pittsburgh left where at an intersection with a green arrow, when the arrow goes away 5-10 extra left-turning cars go through the light. You'd think the city'd want the money from all those tickets.
That one is a good one. Another one of my favorites is the epic multiple Pittsburgh left where 2 cars cut in front of you instead of one.

Some times I wish life was just like Grand Theft Auto.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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No, the easiest way to be predictable is to drive like those around you. The majority of the people on the road haven't read traffic laws since they were 16.
I guess it's no wonder teens get in so many accidents, then. They spend the time learning the laws so they can pass their test, and when they finally get their license it's into the deep end to try to learn how people deviate from said laws.

I can't disagree with you more, but I guess I have my answer, some people just don't care.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:11 PM
 
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I guess it's no wonder teens get in so many accidents, then. They spend the time learning the laws so they can pass their test, and when they finally get their license it's into the deep end to try to learn how people deviate from said laws.

I can't disagree with you more, but I guess I have my answer, some people just don't care.
you have to log hours of driving with a licensed driver and wait 6 months after getting your permit before you can take the actual driving test (50 hours when i did it). In those 6 months/50 hours, the driver should be learning how to deal with people around them. I spent 40 out of my 50 hours on highways which is why I was never afraid of interstates or other highway situations.

Of course, there's no way to confirm those hours were actually put in.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:14 PM
 
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you have to log hours of driving with a licensed driver and wait 6 months after getting your permit before you can take the actual driving test (50 hours when i did it). In those 6 months/50 hours, the driver should be learning how to deal with people around them. I spent 40 out of my 50 hours on highways which is why I was never afraid of interstates or other highway situations.

Of course, there's no way to confirm those hours were actually put in.
I logged many of those hours with a professional instructor, and not once did he bring up any of these idiosyncrasies. We focused primarily on learning how to drive according to state laws.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:21 PM
 
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That one is a good one. Another one of my favorites is the epic multiple Pittsburgh left where 2 cars cut in front of you instead of one.
That's also sometimes known as the "shield technique," which is a reference to the second car using the first car to shield itself from oncoming traffic. And yeah, it's a total prick move.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Speaking of teen driving, anyone caught texting while driving should be shot on sight. No, you're not such a great driver that you can do it just a little.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Perry South, Pittsburgh, PA
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Speaking of teen driving, anyone caught texting while driving should be shot on sight. No, you're not such a great driver that you can do it just a little.
Yes I am.
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Old 12-14-2011, 03:19 PM
 
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If the lights at an intersection are completely inoperable, then I agree, the intersection needs to be treated as a four-way stop. However, what if the signals are blinking red in one direction and yellow in the other? I believe that the folks with the blinking red would have to stop, while the folks with the yellow would have to proceed with caution.
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Old 12-14-2011, 03:22 PM
 
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If the lights at an intersection are completely inoperable, then I agree, the intersection needs to be treated as a four-way stop. However, what if the signals are blinking red in one direction and yellow in the other? I believe that the folks with the blinking red would have to stop, while the folks with the yellow would have to proceed with caution.
Yes, that is correct.
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