Terrible epidemic in this city (Pittsburgh: lawyers, live, professionals)

[UKyank]

I kind of prefer that I have to wear a suit everyday makes rolling out of bed & throwing something on that matches & looks decent easy without much thinking required. Anyone needing a good suit on the cheap should have stalked the Saks's sale as I picked up a bunch of Hickey Freeman & a couple Brioni suits for under $200.

I might put your seeing lots of baggy suits here less to people buying cheap & more to the abundance of fatties the city has.

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I have to agree that Pittsburgh is filled with horrible, "I don't care" outfits. The contrast between here and DC is shocking. Wish people would take some pride in appearances, but the majority just wear flip-flops and look like they don't care about even brushing their teeth or washing themselves. It is what it is. I am lucky in my hometown I see smartly dressed neighbors a lot. It sure is uplifting compared to what I see around Oakland and Downtown. Slob after slob. Also nice clothes are as comfortable as any kind of clothes if they fit well. You don't have to wear a suit, just decent clothing. It has nothing to do with comfort, or whatever other excuse people make. It has to do with a statement saying, "I don't care". Kind of sad the direction people are going. More I don't care stuff and less pride in oneself. If I see flip-flops, I assume lazy and someone that has very little pride in anything. Just meandering through life with little regard for anything.

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Originally Posted by UKyank

I might put your seeing lots of baggy suits here less to people buying cheap & more to the abundance of fatties the city has.

Yeah big baggy clothes are for the fatties. That is true. We have tons of them.

[tranceFusion]

Originally Posted by h_curtis

I have to agree that Pittsburgh is filled with horrible, "I don't care" outfits. The contrast between here and DC is shocking.

I don't actually pay much attention to to how people dress, but the lack of pride in appearance carries over into everything else - buildings, roads, weeds billowing out from the medians, etc.

[Aqua Teen Carl]

Originally Posted by h_curtis

If I see flip-flops, I assume lazy and someone that has very little pride in anything. Just meandering through life with little regard for anything.

I'm so glad there's dudes that think that about guys like me because that couldn't be farther from the truth.

Some straight up 1980's mindsets on here today.

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Originally Posted by Aqua Teen Carl

I'm so glad there's dudes that think that about guys like me because that couldn't be farther from the truth.

Some straight up 1980's mindsets on here today.

How do you figure? It is kind of its own status to tell all, "Look, you can see I just don't care". You and I know that is what it is all about. It takes some pressure off life though. People won't expect much from anyone looking like a slob. It takes no extra time to dress smart. It can be as cheap to dress smart. It can be as comfortable to dress smart. Being a slob is its own status to tell all, "Look at me, I don't care".

[Aqua Teen Carl]

Originally Posted by h_curtis

How do you figure? It is kind of its own status to tell all, "Look, you can see I just don't care". You and I know that is what it is all about. It takes some pressure off life though. People won't expect much from anyone looking like a slob. It takes no extra time to dress smart. It can be as cheap to dress smart. It can be as comfortable to dress smart. Being a slob is its own status to tell all, "Look at me, I don't care".

Flip flops =/= slob. Holes in your shirt with ketchup stains? That's a slob.

Anyway, what I'm saying is that people dress in expensive suits are flaunting their status and those who dress comfortably don't have to. It is not cheap to buy a name brand suit for every work day of the week. That tells the world "look how important I am, I have a suit and a briefcase" when all that tells me is that they're either self centered or hanging on to a 1980's mindset that died a long time ago.

I'll take my flip flops any day as I check out the balance of my retirement fund at age 27, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Aqua Teen Carl

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Anyway, what I'm saying is that people dress in expensive suits are flaunting their status and those who dress comfortably don't have to. It is not cheap to buy a name brand suit for every work day of the week. That tells the world "look how important I am, I have a suit and a briefcase" when all that tells me is that they're either self centered or hanging on to a 1980's mindset that died a long time ago.

I'll take my flip flops any day as I check out the balance of my retirement fund at age 27, thanks.

Ah, look at what you said. Perfect. You state that people who wear nice clothing are, "flaunting their status". Why? Did it ever occur to you that they might just like nice clothes? All people wearing suits are "flaunting"? You do know some jobs require a suit, correct? Why are they "flaunting"?

It isn't my mindset, it is your own. Look at what you wrote above. It is all about your own status, telling all, look, I wear what I want and enjoy portraying my middle finger to the establishment. Please, I have been on the earth too long to really argue these points with you. I know what you wear is actually planned. It is your statement. You think you are telling the suit wearers, I don't have to wear that and you think they care. Most could care less.

[UKyank]

Originally Posted by Aqua Teen Carl

Flip flops =/= slob. Holes in your shirt with ketchup stains? That's a slob.

Anyway, what I'm saying is that people dress in expensive suits are flaunting their status and those who dress comfortably don't have to. It is not cheap to buy a name brand suit for every work day of the week. That tells the world "look how important I am, I have a suit and a briefcase" when all that tells me is that they're either self centered or hanging on to a 1980's mindset that died a long time ago.

I'll take my flip flops any day as I check out the balance of my retirement fund at age 27, thanks.

I disagree with both extemes- I have no problem with flip flops, heck I wore a pair to the bar last night, though I recognize theyre far from looking 'good' & were perfectly suited for hanging out at a dive bar - walking to said bar I passed a funeral home where some people were entering also were wearing flip flops which is at the least disrespectful for the event you are attending & does appear slobbish.

Likewise I don't see wearing an expensive suit as purely showing off (though of course for some that is the sole reason & also partly why Armani continues to do sell well even with their suspect quality), but there are times that a properly fitted high quality suit is indeed nearly required to succeed in certain business ventures (dealings with businessmen in hong kong in particular comes to mind) or really any situation where someone is choosing between professionals, with all other things being equal & one is much more professionally dressed then the other.

I personally prefer good name brand suits because they hold up much better & have a better fit then others - though I always wait until i find them heavily discounted too as I'm a cheap sob

[Aqua Teen Carl]

Originally Posted by h_curtis

Ah, look at what you said. Perfect. You state that people who wear nice clothing are, "flaunting their status". Why? Did it ever occur to you that they might just like nice clothes? All people wearing suits are "flaunting"? You do know some jobs require a suit, correct? Why are they "flaunting"?

It isn't my mindset, it is your own. Look at what you wrote above. It is all about your own status, telling all, look, I wear what I want and enjoy portraying my middle finger to the establishment. Please, I have been on the earth too long to really argue these points with you. I know what you wear is actually planned. It is your statement. You think you are telling the suit wearers, I don't have to wear that and you think they care. Most could care less.

Haha what are you even rambling about? It's the complete opposite. I've worked at enough places where suit wearing middle management would boast about eating a $200 dollar steak dinner while they drove Chevy Malibu's. It's just that fake culture where old men are faking the funk day after day just to flaunt their status (or at least attempt to).

The CEO of my current company told us long ago, "companies like ours are teaching the business world that you can take someone seriously in jeans". I guess he must be anti-establishment too? I'd take his advice over some old antiquated notion that dressing like it's the Regan era means that you are held to a higher standard in life.