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Old 03-03-2014, 09:06 PM
 
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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I agree with the premise of what you are posting and thanks for linking the article, it was a good read. However, I believe this thread was related to the city appearing artificially small to people outside of the Pittsburgh area because of the lack of annexing. While the article you posted has some very positive information and Chris Briem has been writing about this for a while, I am not sure how much it helps people from outside the area look at Pittsburgh as a growing city/metro. Many people simply look at the Pittsburgh city population and wonder why it is #61.

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Old 03-04-2014, 06:28 AM
 
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^^^^ is that a +0.17% ?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!? a positive number? >= 0????????



interstingly, new orleans saw a significant jump in population. possibly people still returning from Katrina?
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh PA
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^^^^ is that a +0.17% ?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!? a positive number? >= 0????????



interstingly, new orleans saw a significant jump in population. possibly people still returning from Katrina?
I believe so, they lost a significant amount of population following Katrina, most who were relocated to Houston. I don't believe that they will reach pre-Katrina numbers by 2020 but I also believe that many of those who left are coming back home. Thankfully for New Orleans this wasn't caused by economic factors meaning that people are coming back as there is work to be had as compared to Rust Belt cities where people left for lack of employment opportunities and for all intents and purposes aren't coming back.

As for the population gain, it is a very small number and is therefore subject for a margin of error wiping out any of the gains, but it is a step up from population freefall. As long as jobs can be created, people will continue to move to/stay in the area. Unfortunately, for jobs to be created in any significant number, PA needs to update it's screwed up business as taxes that drive jobs across state lines. For example, Pittsburgh is losing manufacturing jobs while cities such Cleveland and Detroit are gaining them in droves. Although Pittsburgh won't be the manufacturing giant that it once was, it is good to have manufacturing within the region as they are good lower skill jobs with excellent wages (and it is likely due to the high CNI rate that auto manufacturing never entered western PA like it did for NE Ohio.) I don't think that corporate welfare should be the way of the future, but for Pittsburgh to grow in significant numbers again, economic opportunities need to expand to the point where if one employer lays off a significant amount of workers, they don't have to relocate to say Texas for instance to find comparable employment opportunities.
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