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Old 10-18-2012, 07:38 AM
 
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In a not entirely unrelated note, PAT has actually started removing the T stops in Beechview that were discontinued over the summer. There are backhoes breaking up the platforms on Broadway Ave.
What are trip times like?
This is a logical move for pat.
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:24 AM
 
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That is good news, also that they are continuing to retire the older bending buses, the kind with the aisle that is too narrow for the passenger shifting needed on a city route. The newer bending buses seem to be far better suited for the crowded routes into and out of Oakland.
I AGREE - Those Older "Brown/Gold" Accordions with the Coach Seating (used mostly on the 61's) are not retrofitted for high-ridership crush-loaded routes where people need to stand and are constantly getting on and off...They seem more designed for the Suburb Express Routes like the Greyhound-style buses PAT uses on Suburban Routes...

Once CC is fully implemented fare payment needs to shift to Pay Enter at all times all location, and Center and Back doors for Exiting at all times and locations...This is where the 3rd Door works best on Crush-Loaded Routes like the Busways, 61's and 71's...

Hopefully the additional Accordions will allow PAT to make the 61's and 71's 24/7 Accordion routes like it is with the P1/P2
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