City Population Breakdown by Neighborhood 2000-2010; Predictions for 2010-2020? (Pittsburgh: renter, house)

[eschaton]

Put together another little map showing the locations of substantive black growth in Allegheny County. This shows numeric, not percentage gains, in increments of 100 additional black residents. I didn't bother to list the numeric growth in municipalities that gained under 100, because it would make the map too cluttered. Municipalities that had their black population shrink are in grey.

Going round the map:

North: There's basically no black population growth in the Allegheny Valley, save a little in Tarentum and Sharpsburg. There is some in the North Hills though, especially Ross, Bellevue, and Avalon.

West: The black population continues to grow in the Sto-Rox area - which is probably why the West End itself doesn't seem to have gotten blacker over the last decade. Fairly significant growth in the Crafton-Ingram area, and out towards Robinson Town Center and the airport.

South: All of the inner-ring parts of the South Hills are getting decent black population growth. I'm surprised Brentwood was the strongest of all given its bad reputation in the black community in Pittsburgh. Growth in West Mifflin and Munhall was less than I expected.

East: I was not surprised to see growth in McKeesport, since lots of lower-income folks from the city are being pushed there. I was surprised to see such strong growth in the "suburbs" of McKeesport - in particular Glassport. But the real story here is the continued rapid growth of the black suburban population in Penn Hills, Monroeville, and the Turtle Creek valley. This area accounts for a net gain of 6,600 black residents overall - more than half of the black population growth in suburban Allegheny County. It even seems like Plum is starting to develop a substantial black population.

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

One thing I want to point out. The south side posted modest growth. Outside of that the population is stagnant or declining. The booming growth of the popular east end neighborhoods alone is not enough to boost the entire city. We need growth in the entire city. It is what I said all along. We need the whole city to move forward to boost population. Now you see the tremendous growth in a few areas. But still lost population overall. It takes a lot to grow a city population. We can’t lose sight of that. All 90 neighborhoods need to participate or it won’t turn the corner for real. That’s why I have been so critical of concentrating on a few neighborhoods. Broad economic growth and job creation is needed in addition to high tech.

Actually I looked at population by section of the city, and it was pretty even overall, since every section had some gainers and losers:

Core: +1,431 (3.2%)
Upper East End: -120 (-0.2%)
Lower East End: +90 (0.2%)
South Pittsburgh: -886 (-1.2%)
West End: +7 (0.0%)
North Side (discounting SCI): -873 (-2.2%)

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by gg

Maybe you could move up there. They just elected a socialist mayor. You would love it.

Not so fast. The incumbent is leading a write in effort for polling.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wiv...oral-race/amp/

And btw I was right. Buffalo grew the most out of all the rust belt cities. So much for nominating a socialist as a democrat.

Oh how is your neighborhood doing? Did it grow like Buffalo?

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by eschaton

Actually I looked at population by section of the city, and it was pretty even overall, since every section had some gainers and losers:

Core: +1,431 (3.2%)
Upper East End: -120 (-0.2%)
Lower East End: +90 (0.2%)
South Pittsburgh: -886 (-1.2%)
West End: +7 (0.0%)
North Side (discounting SCI): -873 (-2.2%)

The north side is disappointing. No bones about it. I see a lot of folks in west park. I just thought that area was booming now.

[Independentthinking83]

It’s interesting looking at the census stats. The City of Rochester NY added 800 residents since 2010. First decade of recorded growth since 1950 up there. 211,000 residents up from 210,000. Monroe County (Rochester) up 15,000 residents from 2010

It’s looking like the declines of many rust belt cities are slowing and bottoming out across the board. Some are posting gains. Upstate NY appears to be doing better than rural PA

[Charley Barker]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

It’s interesting looking at the census stats. The City of Rochester NY added 800 residents since 2010. First decade of recorded growth since 1950 up there. 211,000 residents up from 210,000. Monroe County (Rochester) up 15,000 residents from 2010

It’s looking like the declines of many rust belt cities are slowing and bottoming out across the board. Some are posting gains. Upstate NY appears to be doing better than rural PA

Hard to generalize about "Upstate" since there really are entirely different dynamics as you go from east to west and south to north from NYC. NYS invested billions in development and infrastructure in the central and western Upstate cities in the past 10 years, with the lions share going to Buffalo. For all of his many flaws, Cuomo did pony up as he said he would in his last campaign. Outside of the central and western NY metros, the other rural counties continue to struggle with population losses due to natural decline (notible exceptions like Ontario Co., which is an analog to SWPA's Butler Co. has become more of a bedroom county to Rochester and Tompkins Co. which thrives with Cornell and Ithaca College as economic anchors). NYS also has a much more open arms stance towards immigration which has helped some cities, like Utica and Rome which were in population freefall but have stabelized somewhat. The Southern Tier which includes cities like Binghamton and Elmira are in some ways more similar to towns like Altoona and Johnstown and continue to struggle in much the same way as their PA counterparts. The North Country and Hudson Valley are parts of Upstate that seem to have entirely different issues with growth and development. Just my two pennies here!

[gg]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

Not so fast. The incumbent is leading a write in effort for polling.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wiv...oral-race/amp/

And btw I was right. Buffalo grew the most out of all the rust belt cities. So much for nominating a socialist as a democrat.

Oh how is your neighborhood doing? Did it grow like Buffalo?

You weren’t right about much. You had Pittsburgh in the dumps. Your big day didn’t come. Your gleeful time didn’t show. Pittsburgh didn’t fall. So now you will find other cities that did better to try and bring everyone down again. Too funny.

[Reggiezz]

Originally Posted by gg

You weren’t right about much. You had Pittsburgh in the dumps. Your big day didn’t come. Your gleeful time didn’t show. Pittsburgh didn’t fall. So now you will find other cities that did better to try and bring everyone down again. Too funny.

Especially for someone in West Virginia. Talk about envy.

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by Reggiezz

Especially for someone in West Virginia. Talk about envy.

I thought he was an African-American who was gentrified out of Lawrenceville and now lives in Allison Park?

[PreservationPioneer]

I feel like Buffalo is the star of the show. I don't know anyone who expected the population turnaround there. It needs to be studied and applied to other rust belt cities. Buffalo is a beautiful city and deserves this, big time.

We also need to talk about Cincinnati. Did anyone expect Cincy to grow before Pittsburgh?