Cranberry to demolish 162-year-old one-room schoolhouse (Pittsburgh, Butler: hardwood floors, hotel, floors)

[Shooflypie]

Ye Olde Cranberry

[Copanut]

Originally Posted by HeavenWood

It had next-to-no defining characteristics or infrastructure until the 1980s.

Read between the lines.

Always had routes 19 and 228. Was the connecting point from the T pike to 79 north. The Cranberry house was a fairly popular restaurant. In the early 70's I used to ride a snowmobile down Route 19 in the winter.

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by Copanut

Always had routes 19 and 228. Was the connecting point from the T pike to 79 north. The Cranberry house was a fairly popular restaurant. In the early 70's I used to ride a snowmobile down Route 19 in the winter.

That doesn't contradict my previous statement.

[Copanut]

Please elaborate.

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by Copanut

Please elaborate.

I said "next-to-no" defining characteristics. The sole defining pre-1980s characteristic you named would constitute as "next-to-none" (no, US routes and limited access highways don't count).

[Copanut]

Disagree. Cranberry was well known in my circle.

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by Copanut

Disagree. Cranberry was well known in my circle.

A place can be known and still have next-to-no defining characteristics. Either way, we're getting off-topic here.

[MathmanMathman]

I'd say try and move it to some touristy place. Then restore it to its former 1850s one school room self.

I went to two schools in PA that had the old dried out wooden floors because they used radiator heaters. Complete with old deeply carved graffiti on wooden desktops with holes at the top right corner to hold an inkwell. Back then, us kids wanted a new school, but looking back, I feel fortunate I got to take 3rd, 7th, and 8th grades in those time capsules. One was torn down and the other its interior renovated but no longer a school.

None of them have the class of say a "Hogwarts" school, but still, I'd like it if schools were kept standing for generation after generation so we'd all have that connection.

[RyanR]

Originally Posted by MathmanMathman

Complete with old deeply carved graffiti on wooden desktops with holes at the top right corner to hold an inkwell.

Hey, I remember those desks as well. I wish I could find some now. They're so tough that when we crawled under them, we were protected from nukes.

As for this school building, if it has to go, it has to go. They tried to save it but not all things can be saved.

[Tallysmom]

Originally Posted by Copanut

Always had routes 19 and 228. Was the connecting point from the T pike to 79 north. The Cranberry house was a fairly popular restaurant. In the early 70's I used to ride a snowmobile down Route 19 in the winter.

May I correct you? Cranberry Hall. Amusingly enough, my parents never ate there. I finally got my father to go there ONCE. Even as a kid I didn't get the appeal. My dad was uncomfortable the whole time. Later found out that, according to my parents, before it was a resturant, it was a large home, owned by a rich guy in an unhappy marriage who arranged for a hit on his wife. It happened in the home. They caught the guys, who ratted out the husband, and he left the earth via "Old Sparky".

And I can remember winter storms where my Dad hopped on the snowmobile and delivered some emergency groceries to friends.... that thing was a blast. Used to ride across the street from our house in the state land. It's now a shopping center.

Originally Posted by HeavenWood

I said "next-to-no" defining characteristics. The sole defining pre-1980s characteristic you named would constitute as "next-to-none" (no, US routes and limited access highways don't count).

Well -- pumpkin -- I lived there practically my whole life. There's lots of history if you look for it, and yes -- it's being ignored, now. But it was a wonderful place to grow up in. I wouldn't live there now, unless you paid me.

And don't you think it's a little high handed of you to decide if a place has significance or not?

Cranberry was not only founded in 1804, it houses an original 1806 church -- Plains U. P. church. Dutihl Methodist has been a congregation since 1853 -- even though that old church burned to the ground -- the congregation built it again.

Now -- the oldest church in Pittsburgh is Trinity Presbyterian -- from 1757.... but that's nothing compared with Europes churches. And frankly, pretty much everything here can't compare to Europe..... who can't compare to "Fertile Crescent" where the Valley of the Kings is..... Does that make America irrelevant.... and Europe?