Is pittsburgh extremely racist?? (Philadelphia, York: fit in, crime rate, chapel)

[WILWRadio]

Originally Posted by Veyron

I live in pittsburgh now. There is practically zero racism here in fact it almost feels really liberal.

There are racial problems in some of the working class areas of Connecticut but the entire state is hardly racist. As someone else just pointed out a ton of people claim Pittsburgh is a racist region as well and I strongly suspect that these people that are quick to point a finger and yell that an area is racist may not always be correct. Unless someone is deliberately doing something nasty to you simply because of your color and says so, I would not be too quick to make such claims.

Example:

I started managing a Domino's Pizza store in Cromwell, CT at one time and I hired several non white people including blacks and ended up with a staff that was comprised of 30% minorities. I would yell at everyone and anyone from time to time (politely of course) if they messed up. Nobody called me a racist and understood I was applying the same rules to everyone equally.

Fast forward several years late and I am in Kansas City. I got labeled as a racist by these people for some inexplicable reason that I don't even know. It may be due to the fact that a now former friend that moved here after being born and raised in New England started to hang out with known racists in KC and it could have been guilt by association even though I did not share their views and after a while, I stopped hanging out with them. Other than that I cannot think of any reason why someone would label me as such other than pure ignorance and unfamiliarity with the way I was raised and how I behave as an adult. In any event, the damage was done and it make life terrible here and I certainly don't have any inclination to stay or even make any friends here or attempt to ever again.

The point? Unless you have real concrete evidence that racism is present, don't be too quick to judge. The people in KC and environs did that to me and it has nearly ruined my life. As far as I am concerned the people in KC can get lost and stay there especially since most of them are closet racists including those that are not white.

[ferraris]

Which part of the city did you end up moving to if you don't mind saying? How is the commute to Uniontown working out?

I'm glad that you're more comfortable once you actually got here.

[alex_jones]

How do you determine the difference between "extremely racist" and regular racist?

[cooks50]

Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212

You have to understand that "Most" people on this forum that claim "Pittsburgh is Racist" have never lived outside side the burgh, and never seen Racism in its truest form. They claim Pittsburgh is racist because they themselves cannot get head so they blame society, you rarely hear "Pittsburgh is racist" from the Well-to-Blacks that live here, but Well to do blacks are small here so instead of there being a enclave of Middle-Upper Middle Class AA neighborhoods, we're pretty much integrated into the majority white areas. Well-to-do blacks don't want to live around Ghetto Blacks or Trashy Whites either.

Compared to a lot of other cities, bigger cities with far more of an AA population have far more a profound racial and segregation problem than Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh AA population is small enough that outside of the Ghettos, Pittsburgh integrates its AA pretty well. Cities with much higher counts of AA, are also cities that are highly Segregated, Have far more AA living much more extreme cases of poverty than Pittsburgh.

As a matter of fact Pittsburgh impoverished AA's in Ghettos live better than Improvised Ghettos of other cities that I've seen.

Pittsburgh's Ghetto's (even Homewood) cannot compare to Ghetto's you find in Chicago's South Side, Philadelphia, Newark, Miami, Atlanta, DC, NOLA, Houston, even NYC's East New York and Brownsville neighborhoods....

Hell compare Pittsburgh's Ghettos to the Ghettos of those Cities and Pittsburgh's ghetto blacks live like Kings.

That's why when someone on here claims Pittsburgh is "extremely racist and segregated" you have to take that with a HUGE GRAIN OF SALT. This is coming from someone who considers herself to be a "Buppie"


P.S. Can anyone name a city where there's a substantial Buppie, Professional AA population without their being an even larger number of AAs living in Ghetto's. Seems like you can't have one without the other.

Your own city council member said Pittsburgh is racist in a link that was shared earlier in a thread. Instead of making excuses and trying to trash other cities as you always seem to do so well, face reality and come up with solutions to mollify this issue.

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by cooks50

Your own city council member said Pittsburgh is racist in a link that was shared earlier in a thread. Instead of making excuses and trying to trash other cities as you always seem to do so well, face reality and come up with solutions to mollify this issue.

Just because someone is elected to City Council doesn't give them any special insight into the matter and it doesn't make their opinion any more valid than anyone else's.


I looked for, but didn't find the link you're referring to, so I don't know which council person make that observation. But we've had a lot of characters on that body on that years, I don't give any special weight to their observations.

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by cooks50

Instead of making excuses and trying to trash other cities as you always seem to do so well, face reality and come up with solutions to mollify this issue.

Well, the solutions to social problems don't happen overnight, so check back in about 10 years. In the meantime, enjoy Columbus. It's so much better there that you don't have time for us racist yinzers anyway.

[Blackbeauty212]

Originally Posted by cooks50

Your own city council member said Pittsburgh is racist in a link that was shared earlier in a thread. Instead of making excuses and trying to trash other cities as you always seem to do so well, face reality and come up with solutions to mollify this issue.

Not making excuses just putting forth facts, If Pittsburgh is racist, damn near every city in America could be labeled Racist... 1 city councilmen doesn't define a city. Again people like to throw around the word without knowing what true racism even is, they use it as a way to blame society for what should be their own personal responsibilities.

And I have done nothing but list fact...those cities do have significantly high number of AA living in improvised ghettos.

Could Pittsburgh have more significant Middle/Upper Middle class of AA sure, but then it probably have an even higher number of improvised Ghettos of AA living in even worse conditions. Point is it seems like in order for any city to have a large number of professional "well-to-do" AA enclaves those same cities would have triple the number of AA living Ghettos as well...

[sparrowmint]

Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212

Not making excuses just putting forth facts, If Pittsburgh is racist, damn near every city in America could be labeled Racist...

Looks like you're close to getting it. The entire country is racist. Not every single individual, but at a societal, cultural, and institutional level? Yep.

[cooks50]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

Well, the solutions to social problems don't happen overnight, so check back in about 10 years. In the meantime, enjoy Columbus. It's so much better there that you don't have time for us racist yinzers anyway.

Yes it is much better I lived in pittsburgh for five years so I know both cities

[cooks50]

Originally Posted by I_Like_Spam

Just because someone is elected to City Council doesn't give them any special insight into the matter and it doesn't make their opinion any more valid than anyone else's.


I looked for, but didn't find the link you're referring to, so I don't know which council person make that observation. But we've had a lot of characters on that body on that years, I don't give any special weight to their observations.

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