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Old 06-27-2013, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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If the suburbanites didn't support the arts/sports/museums in this town, it would die. I probably spend more money than most Pghers on the RMU speaker series, the CLO, the City Theater, Buccos, and you name it.

So, SCR, stuff it.

 
Old 06-27-2013, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Philly
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Oh and I can see Seattle, Portland and Austin maybe being higher, but I don't know about Boston. Isn't Boston filled with crime and poverty? I don't know a lot about Denver, yet.
no, not particularly, it's crime rate is about the same as pittsburgh's. the problem here is that people are assuing "smartest city" is something particularly desirable or that it means other places are dysfunctional which indicates a lack of understanding of what good cities are.
 
Old 06-27-2013, 09:09 AM
 
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Damn, only took us a day to lose the title on these completely arbitrary lists: The Smartest Cities In America - Yahoo! Finance
 
Old 06-27-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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It just shows that local media love to hype results of vapid top-ten or top-whatever lists without critically looking at them.
 
Old 06-27-2013, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Mexican War Streets
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I don't quite get what you're saying. Read Copa's post. Read the post he was responding to, stating this was all suburban people who were acting like ignoramouses (ignorami?). That's garbage.
All SCR's (admittedly inelegant post) stated was that he felt the MAJORITY of the people at the show were from the suburbs.

I think he was probably using "suburb" imprecisely to represent all suburbs, exurbs, rural, etc; namely "not City residents", perhaps I'm wrong.

That 50.1% (or more) of the people at the show didn't live in the City strikes me a highly probable. As Copanut later alluded, I would expect most large events in the City to reflect this.
 
Old 06-27-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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All SCR's (admittedly inelegant post) stated was that he felt the MAJORITY of the people at the show were from the suburbs.

I think he was probably using "suburb" imprecisely to represent all suburbs, exurbs, rural, etc; namely "not City residents", perhaps I'm wrong.

That 50.1% (or more) of the people at the show didn't live in the City strikes me a highly probable. As Copanut later alluded, I would expect most large events in the City to reflect this.
So what? It was still a slur, on suburbanites. As if city people don't behave badly as well. How does SCR or you or anyone else know that it was mostly the suburbanites behaving badly? What percentage of the audience was this?
 
Old 06-27-2013, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Mexican War Streets
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If the suburbanites didn't support the arts/sports/museums in this town, it would die. I probably spend more money than most Pghers on the RMU speaker series, the CLO, the City Theater, Buccos, and you name it.
Of course, that's true. It is precisely this reality that can be off-putting at times. Suburbanites (not all, some, perhaps most) identify as "Pittsburghers" when it suits them to...they take advantage of all the City has to offer and then flee the City, or even the County, to their suburban tax havens in order to avoid having to contribute to the actual work and heavy lifting of repairing modern, urban America.

I'm not saying it's not rational, it is...just...
 
Old 06-27-2013, 11:32 AM
 
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Damn, only took us a day to lose the title on these completely arbitrary lists: The Smartest Cities In America - Yahoo! Finance
That's actually one of the two surveys mentioned in the original post. It ranked Pittsburgh #4 among "large metros" but not in the top 10 overall.

Are These America's Brainiest Cities? - Richard Florida - The Atlantic Cities
 
Old 06-27-2013, 11:32 AM
 
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These lists are somewhat arbitrary, but examining the results of many may (perhaps?) give some perspective to a broad populace on decent places to live.

I must confess I'm amazingly disappointed that Pittsburgh doesn't even appear on the list of cities which have bikini barista outlets. The west coast is so superior in this respect, but really, there's one in Youngstown. Yes, Younstown, Ohio!!!! And Raleigh has one ....

Bikini barista - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

C'mon Pittsburgh. You can't be a serious modern city without being on the bikina barista outlet list!! Why did I ever leave Washington State?
 
Old 06-27-2013, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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I'd hazard a guess to say that >50.0% of those in attendance at the Kenny Chesney concert were from outside the city limits. I don't see why that ruffled so many feathers. Only ~308,000 of the well over 2,000,000 people in the area live in the city proper. Proportionately it stands to reason that the majority of the country music fans in this region live outside the city.
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