08-14-2013, 06:28 AM
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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I'm afraid every group has its not so good apples. I was riding with a group last night over one of the bridges, and 25-ish of us were in single file on the right, letting traffic past. Suddenly one of the group pulled out from the back to start overtaking, and cut off a car that was very responsibly passing us all. The car honked - rightly - and the dude turned around and abused him. I was embarrassed. Sure I wasn't the only one.
I really don't know what the answer is. Our city's cyclist population is growing. Our city's overall population is growing. Our tourism appeal is growing. Our infrastructure is NOT growing because our city leaders are too afraid to raise taxes to improve our quality-of-life where necessary. If you want to see a fun impending traffic headache in the East End bear in mind that while the South Highland Avenue Bridge in Shadyside will be reopening shortly the South Negley Avenue Bridge (by Market District) is slated to close within the next few years for replacement. South Aiken Avenue will be a road-rage nightmare!
I drove past a fleet of about 30 cyclists heading southbound on South Negley Avenue through Shadyside last night. If you were in that group I may have seen you!
08-14-2013, 07:26 AM
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Sorry for the deletion of multiple posts.............I emailed the Borough of West Homestead yesterday in regards to the articles that I read in the Post Gazette and elsewhere. When I go to paste it, I get all sorts of HTML nonsense. In a nutshell, I told them the article was interesting to me as both an automobile driver and cyclist. I agreed that breaking the law was breaking the law, no matter what way you look at it. I also said that I am suprised that a borough is making headlines by handing out 10 dollar citations to cyclists, when there are so many more dangerous violations of the laws on our roads today.
08-14-2013, 07:35 AM
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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I also said that I am suprised that a borough is making headlines by handing out 10 dollar citations to cyclists, when there are so many more dangerous violations of the laws on our roads today.
As I've said (and I'll reiterate, I suppose) cyclists neglecting to observe traffic laws themselves is INDEED "dangerous". I almost hit a cyclist the other day in Shadyside when they ran a 4-way stop sign, and I expected them to---you know---STOP! I almost hit a cyclist a few months ago as they came careening the wrong way down a one-way street in Oakland while I proceeded to cross it at an intersection. I felt road rage growing inside of me the other day on Wilkins Avenue in Squirrel Hill North as two cyclists chose to ride rather slowly side-by-side instead of single-file, preventing me (and everyone behind me) from being able to safely pass them as there was too much oncoming traffic on that very busy road. Yes, believe it or not some people in this city actually DO have places to go and have jobs and don't have time to deal with nonsense associated with cyclists who do nothing all day besides think of new ways to break traffic laws and annoy drivers.
Also, if you wouldn't want to follow a yinzer in a Buick who doesn't use turn signals because "everyone should know where I'm going already", then why do you think anyone would want to follow a cyclist who doesn't use the arm signals to indicate when she or he is turning left or right? Being stuck behind a cyclist at a green light who is in the middle of your lane waiting to turn left without having outstretched their left arm to indicate they were turning annoys me fiercely.
Sorry to vent so much, but I'm starting to really feel annoyed by the sheer volume of cyclists (and drivers, of course, to be fair) who make my job immensely more stressful than it needs to be on a daily basis because they're rude, arrogant, dumb, or some combination of all three factors. This isn't Portland. We don't have good infrastructure here for cycling because our city leaders aren't visionary and are too terrified to raise taxes to improve our infrastructure to adequate levels to make things BETTER for both motorists AND cyclists, lest the yinzers vote them out of office.
08-14-2013, 07:37 AM
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I drove past a fleet of about 30 cyclists heading southbound on South Negley Avenue through Shadyside last night. If you were in that group I may have seen you!
Around 6.30pm? Most likely.
I was the one behaving perfectly
08-14-2013, 07:48 AM
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Yep - lets not get 'holier than thou' on this issue. Since this thread started I've been counting how many motorists actually come to a complete stop at stop signs in the back streets of Shadyside/SH where I ride a lot. There's many (IMHO too many) 4-ways on quiet roads, and about 50% of cars do what in WA we called a 'California stop', ie roll up and if its obviously clear, keep rolling. They don't stop.
My sample is still too small and not statistically significant, I'm sure. But its certainly indicative.
08-14-2013, 08:30 AM
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I would be happy to pay more taxes in order to create bike-only lanes that allow cars and bikes to share space. But there should be the same level of enforcement of road rules applied to bikes as there are to cars, as well as registration, inspection, etc. to help defray the costs of the bike-only lanes.
08-14-2013, 08:34 AM
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I would be happy to pay more taxes in order to create bike-only lanes that allow cars and bikes to share space.
Before we spend money on bike lanes, we need to get sidewalks along busy roads.
08-14-2013, 08:38 AM
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Around 6.30pm? Most likely.
I was the one behaving perfectly
Yes. Around 6:30 PM. Were you the white guy?
08-14-2013, 08:41 AM
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Yes. Around 6:30 PM. Were you the white guy?
White, as in terrified ....
08-14-2013, 08:45 AM
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Also, the argument of "well I saw some cars break the law, so that invalidates any argument asking for enforcement of bicycle law breakers" is ridiculous. Ticket the cars AND ticket the bikes!
I'm good with that, whether I'm driving or biking. Pays your money, takes your chances ... no ridiculous argument at all.
I trust you never fail to completely stop at a stop sign, of course. Even when you can clearly see no other vehicle within 100's of feet.
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Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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