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Old 10-20-2013, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Philly
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I'm having a hard time visualizing this. Where would you put this "dedicated right-of-way" such that it would "NOT interfere with existing traffic"?

And where would the light rail go?
liberty could handle dedicated lanes
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Old 10-20-2013, 02:33 PM
 
Location: North Oakland
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liberty could handle dedicated lanes
How would a dedicated lane on Liberty make its way to Squirrel Hill or Regent Square?
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Old 10-20-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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How would a dedicated lane on Liberty make its way to Squirrel Hill or Regent Square?
why does it have to?
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:01 PM
 
Location: North Oakland
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why does it have to?
Well, Squirrel Hill and Oakland -- I meant Oakland, not Regent Square; don't know why I typed that -- are major bus destinations in Pgh. Where would these dedicated tracks go on Forbes and Fifth?
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:03 PM
 
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Well, Squirrel Hill and Oakland -- I meant Oakland, not Regent Square; don't know why I typed that -- are major bus destinations in Pgh. Where would these dedicated tracks go on Forbes and Fifth?

There is a bus lane on 5th Ave from Jumonville out to the Cathedral, I guess it could go there?
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:12 PM
 
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There is a bus lane on 5th Ave from Jumonville out to the Cathedral, I guess it could go there?
Good idea.

Tangentially, I was waiting for the bus the other day, and a guy was telling me how someone parked a car so far out in the street that the trolley couldn't pass it. It made me wonder how much clearance would be needed to create a "dedicated" lanes. Also, could they put one in in the center of Forbes and Fifth Avenues?
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Good idea.

Tangentially, I was waiting for the bus the other day, and a guy was telling me how someone parked a car so far out in the street that the trolley couldn't pass it. It made me wonder how much clearance would be needed to create a "dedicated" lanes. Also, could they put one in in the center of Forbes and Fifth Avenues?

If the dedicated lanes are put in the center of the street, you have build islands for the passenger to board and alight safely.


The amount of clearance needed varies, and its wider on the turns than on the straightaways. When they had a lot of trolleys, they painted lines on the street indicating the clearance needed. But not everyone was that astute in observing them and occasionally they'd have to call for a tow. One of the problems with the fixed rail system on public streets.
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:26 PM
 
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Can I ask why so many on here have such an aversion towards light rail? Whenever a topic like this arises many dismiss it and say "more buses, please". How will adding more and more buses onto already congested streets fix our congestion woes? We need transit that operates in its own dedicated right-of-way AWAY from other vehicles. We need to improve upon the Busways, develop BRT that will NOT interfere with existing traffic, and invest in light rail.
Light rail is one of the reasons Portland has boomed, Their system is excellent. It certainly impacts traffic downtown, but it goes to places like the airport, Hillsboro (where Intel Is), and several other high density population areas. People use it.
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Light rail is one of the reasons Portland has boomed, Their system is excellent. It certainly impacts traffic downtown, but it goes to places like the airport, Hillsboro (where Intel Is), and several other high density population areas. People use it.
Right. It's also the reason why Arlington, VA has been booming. People aren't going to pay a premium to live near a bus stop. They will pay a premium to live near a light rail stop.
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:39 PM
 
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Right. It's also the reason why Arlington, VA has been booming. People aren't going to pay a premium to live near a bus stop. They will pay a premium to live near a light rail stop.
But a minor reason. Being near the seat of power is a big reason.

One advantage to LRT is they are very quiet. A bit scary too as you won't often hear them coming like you would a bus. Sadly, a girl was run over and killed by an LRT in Houston as she got off one train but didn't hear the other one coming on the other track.
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