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Old 01-29-2014, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Kittanning
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Detroit seems to be surging past pittsburgh
Only if you mean in terms of abandonment, crime, and financial problems:


Detroit on the edge - YouTube
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Old 01-29-2014, 08:48 PM
 
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Only if you mean in terms of abandonment, crime, and financial problems:


Detroit on the edge - YouTube
Those terms fit pittsburgh as well.... The mcdonalds in east liberty was selling heroin through its drive through to Pittsburgh Police.

I guess you chose not to read the articles? So when was the last time Pittsburgh grew by 11,000 jobs in it's downtown over 18 months?
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Old 01-30-2014, 05:13 AM
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So is this still a Pittsburgh topic ? Or is it about Detroit ?
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Old 01-30-2014, 05:24 AM
 
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When was the last time Pittsburgh added 11,000 employees to their downtown in 18 months?

"added", or "re-gained what was lost"? if you have nothing to start with, hiring ONE employee is a 100% gain. i dont think Detroit is in a renaissance, exactly, although im not one to pour salt water on the optimism the city has been seeing.

back in the 1990s, Pittsburgh was stellar in "job creation", when really, it (like the rest of the US) was just restarting a stalled economic engine that rebooted to get back to its previous point of activity.
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Old 01-30-2014, 08:27 AM
 
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Doesn't Detroit have $500 houses?

Which would naturally make it more affordable than Pittsburgh.

There are several houses for sale for $1 in Detroit on realtor.com . I think there were a lot more last summer but maybe they've been delisted in order to relist in the spring and try for $1.50.

Just more evidence to back up zman's "detroit is surging past pittsburgh" claim.
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Old 01-30-2014, 08:28 AM
 
Location: roaming about Allegheny City
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A fact that can be lost on many Pittsburghers themselves..
I don't know if Pittsburgh is the most affordable city, but it's definitely amongst the most affordable. However, this may change in the course of the next few years to the next decade, because Pittsburgh is becoming very popular with people who live in other cities and regions of the country. Fewer neighborhoods will remain affordable, but some will probably always be so (e.g., Marshall-Shadeland, Elliott).

Of course, all of this depends on someone's definition of affordability, which is highly subjective.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:10 AM
 
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I don't know if Pittsburgh is the most affordable city, but it's definitely amongst the most affordable. However, this may change in the course of the next few years to the next decade, because Pittsburgh is becoming very popular with people who live in other cities and regions of the country. Fewer neighborhoods will remain affordable, but some will probably always be so (e.g., Marshall-Shadeland, Elliott).
Even this isn't really a given. For the short term I agree, but these are places where sub-$50K homes are common. If say there are 20 years of sustained growth in Pittsburgh (and yes, that's a big "if") I could hypothetically see $150K being the minimum needed for a livable home anywhere in Pittsburgh. Maybe more depending on inflation.

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Of course, all of this depends on someone's definition of affordability, which is highly subjective.
Very true. $150K is probably considered affordable to most people today, let alone in the future.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Those terms fit pittsburgh as well.... The mcdonalds in east liberty was selling heroin through its drive through to Pittsburgh Police.

I guess you chose not to read the articles? So when was the last time Pittsburgh grew by 11,000 jobs in it's downtown over 18 months?
As was the one in Murrysville, which is essentially Cranberry, Jr. But I suppose that stuff never happens in amazing cities like Columbus, Raleigh, Charlotte, and hell, now add Detroit to your list!
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:02 AM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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"added", or "re-gained what was lost"? if you have nothing to start with, hiring ONE employee is a 100% gain. i dont think Detroit is in a renaissance, exactly, although im not one to pour salt water on the optimism the city has been seeing.
Not to nitpick, but since you're dividing by zero, the percent increase would actually be "infinite."
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Old 01-30-2014, 11:09 AM
 
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Not to nitpick, but since you're dividing by zero, the percent increase would actually be "infinite."
Even nitpickier, division by zero is not actually infinitude but is "undefined" for the set of real numbers. It is true that the division of a / b approaches infinity as b approaches zero, but the actual value of a / 0 is undefined and has no meaning. Some details on this wikipedia page.

(I've probably taken about 30 credit-hours of college level math but don't actually remember all that much by this time)
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