Political makeover of a rust belt city (Pittsburgh, York: transplants, neighborhood)

[Copanut]

Originally Posted by zman63

My point is the suburbs pull the R no matter what. Democrats have no chance in these areas. It is the same argument you use for the city always pulling the D lever.

I do not see the suburbs changing much. Pulling the R level hasn't pushed them toward a path of progression or youth. They like the status quo out there.

I am beginning to see the huge age difference of the residents in the city and the suburbs. I see a lot of young people at the gym and walking the neighborhoods in the city.

In bethel park i went to a social event last week where of the 500 people there I was probably the youngest at 33. It looked like an AARP function.

Again, what city do you want to live in that will make you happy?


I'm guessing Bethel Park is not on the list.

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by zman63

Young professionals are being hired at google and american eagle and their wages are high. They know the future is in the city and that is why the companies are investing here.


BTW McCandless lost nearly 1,000 people between the 2000 and 2010 census. Bethel Park lost 1,200, Sewickley lost 2 percent of its population.

The suburbs peaked in the early 2000s the trend has reversed to the city.

I wouldn't give up on the suburbs yet. There is a lot to say about ample parking day or night.

I wish I could find they story, but there was a suggestion in the 1980's floated where a columnist in the Press suggested that the suburbs to the north, south and west merge into "New Pittsburgh" as the future of the area.

[JoeP]

Sucks to be old and white, but I'll keep paying my taxes to keep the economy running. Tell me how being progressive in the City will change things. The Dems have run this town/county for years, and even you admit you would like to live somewhere else.

Old politics is old politics. Party matters little on those matters.

So, the only people moving into the city will be rich, how else could you afford those prices.

Wow, you talk about yinzers....

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by Copanut

Educate the masses? Eliminate unions? Get rid of yinzers n'at?

Hey, I have no answers, just like living in the 'burbs where you get a great bang for your tax buck.

No, I mean is there anything short of electing a Republican mayor which you would admit is "defeating the machine."

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by zman63

My point is the suburbs pull the R no matter what. Democrats have no chance in these areas. It is the same argument you use for the city always pulling the D lever.

I do not see the suburbs changing much. Pulling the R level hasn't pushed them toward a path of progression or youth. They like the status quo out there.

I am beginning to see the huge age difference of the residents in the city and the suburbs. I see a lot of young people at the gym and walking the neighborhoods in the city.

In bethel park i went to a social event last week where of the 500 people there I was probably the youngest at 33. It looked like an AARP function.

Lots of students and people who don't have children in the city, more of those likely to be younger. There is still an appeal for those settling down with a little yard to have the young'uns to play in for the suburbs

[Copanut]

Originally Posted by eschaton

No, I mean is there anything short of electing a Republican mayor which you would admit is "defeating the machine."

Ya got me, I'm just tired of the same old same old. I'm glad that Boy Luke is gone, seems like Mr. Peduto has the right idea. Really liked Mr. O'Conner(sp), RIP. Hey, I love this area, 61 years on the planet. Just get tired of the old Dem thing.

[speagles84]

Originally Posted by I_Like_Spam

Lots of students and people who don't have children in the city, more of those likely to be younger. There is still an appeal for those settling down with a little yard to have the young'uns to play in for the suburbs

Bingo

This thread is stupid. Claiming everybody is either R in the suburbs or D in the city is ludacris. Or the same for young people vs old people. Everybody is an individual and has their own choices. Personally, once I'm done with school (in 3 months yay for me ), I'm moving out to the suburbs. I've loved my time in the city, but I've had enough of it for now. Also, I'm a republican at age 24 . So classifying every young person as democratic and city loving or old people as suburban loving republicans is just dumb.

As for the point made about the suburbs dying off and declining like Penn Hills (Just one suburbs by the way), just no. Bethel Park and McCandless will never be a ghetto. Ever.

[ny789987]

Wow, lots of haters hating on Bethel here. Who knew that Bethel merely consisted of a bunch of geriatrics rolling around in their wheel chairs pulling the lever for Republicans. I guess all those kids and young people that I see jogging and hanging around South Park are the great grand kids visiting. Who needs a yard and the ability to listen to the birds when you can live in an Section 8 inner city slum with all those progressive "enlightened" people.

[ny789987]

Originally Posted by zman63

My point is the suburbs pull the R no matter what. Democrats have no chance in these areas.

Bethel Park voted for Obama 57% vs Romney 42%. There are a lot of Democrats in the suburbs and vice versa.

[speagles84]

Originally Posted by ny789987

Bethel Park voted for Obama 57% vs Romney 42%. There are a lot of Democrats in the suburbs and vice versa.

You are on fire tonight. I'd rep you for this post, but I just repped your other post.