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Old 02-24-2014, 02:40 PM
 
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Actually, I'm the opposite. If you don't have a car and need to get to work be resourceful and find a way. Public transportation or ones own 2 legs can get you most everywhere a bicycle can. Again, pretty simple.
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Old 02-24-2014, 02:42 PM
 
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Actually, I'm the opposite. If you don't have a car and need to get to work be resourceful and find a way. Public transportation or ones own 2 legs can get you most everywhere a bicycle can. Again, pretty simple.
And ones own 2 legs can also get you most everywhere a car can. I think you just solved our state's budget, Erieguy! Why are we wasting all this money plowing roads? People could just walk everywhere!
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Old 02-24-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Yup. Hard to believe one couldn't think of that on their own. Being resourceful can pay great dividends.
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Old 02-24-2014, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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[quote=canadian citizen;33614130]I think we can all agree that Toronto gets a lot more snow than yourcity does.

Having said that..... Here is the mechanical solution to removing snow from the curb of any road or street. Obviously the cars are warned to move, 12 hours ahead of the clearing operations. Toronto Police have their own tow trucks for removing cars, to a local mall parking lot, with no tickets.

link to video image.


Snow Removal In Toronto Canada - YouTube

That one machine with ten dump trucks, can clear 20 miles of curb in one 12 hour shift. Multiply that by 80 machines, and we have the solution to your problem.

Toronto has a fleet of over 800 trucks, sanders salters and plows. Part of the fleet are city owned units, the rest are private contractors, on a seasonal contract from December to April 15th.

This years snow removal budget is 80 million dollars, and that amount does not include snow operations on the Provincial highways that run through Toronto, such as the 401, 410, 403, 407 and 427. Those are covered by the Ontario Ministry of Highways, with their trucks and sanders and salters.

here is a link to a video showing 23 MTO trucks clearing the entire width of the 401 east bound , at 50 mph. Shot from a condo building that over looks the highway, in the middle of the city. At one point the 401 has 16 traffic lanes, 8 in each direction . In terms of daily vehicle use it is the busiest highway in North America, and it runs from Detroit ( Windsor, Ontario ) to the border with Quebec, a total of about 700 miles, from west to east.

BE SURE to watch the entire video, to see the whole roadway cleared, and sanded, including the feeder lanes, all at the same time ! If you watch the whole video, you can count a total of 23 trucks, all working to plow, salt, sand and trim the entire eastbound highway, at once.



High5videos.com - Snowplows Clearing Highway 401 in Toronto. The best videos!

By the way, Toronto has about 50 miles of bike trails that are non vehicle and they are cleared of snow by the city, in winter. We also have hundreds of miles of city streets that have curb bike lanes, six feet wide, and clearly marked as bikes only. These are "no parking " for cars between 7 am and 9am, and 3 pm to 7 pm, m to f.

Jim B.

Toronto.

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Old 02-24-2014, 02:48 PM
 
Location: ɥbɹnqsʇʇıd
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Why are we wasting all this money plowing roads? People could just walk everywhere!
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Old 02-24-2014, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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And ones own 2 legs can also get you most everywhere a car can. I think you just solved our state's budget, Erieguy! Why are we wasting all this money plowing roads? People could just walk everywhere!
Nobodys wasting money plowing snow from roadways. Wasting money would be buying equipment and paying operators to clear bike paths...but if one can ride a bike to where they need to go, they can certainly walk, or perhaps the bus would be a viable option. There's always a way. One just needs to find it.
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Old 02-24-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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Yup. Hard to believe one couldn't think of that on their own. Being resourceful can pay great dividends.
Talk about embodying Poe's Law.
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Old 02-24-2014, 02:51 PM
 
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Nobodys wasting money plowing snow from roadways. Wasting money would be buying equipment and paying operators to clear bike paths...but if one can ride a bike to where they need to go, they can certainly walk, or perhaps the bus would be a viable option. There's always a way. One just needs to find it.
Why is it wasting money for bike paths but not for roads? Like you said yourself, you can just walk -- no need for a bike or a car. Just don't use any vehicle for a few months a year, no big deal.
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Old 02-24-2014, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Talk about embodying Poe's Law.
Its just obvious. The needs of the many outweigh the wants of the few. If the few want it bad enough theres no reason they cant find a way.
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Old 02-24-2014, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Why is it wasting money for bike paths but not for roads? Like you said yourself, you can just walk -- no need for a bike or a car. Just don't use any vehicle for a few months a year, no big deal.
If that's a serious question it all makes sense and you definitely dont want to operate a motor vehicle.

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