Sweden's zero pedestrian fatality hopes (Jefferson: salon, homes, zoned)

[pman]

Originally Posted by h_curtis

While driving a 3 to 7,000 pound weapon. There is OBVIOUSLY greater responsibility when driving something that kills tens of thousands of people every year. Slow down on city streets. People are trying to live there and even kids are around or elderly for goodness sake. Stop being so selfish!

exactly, slow down save a life, and stop blaming pedestrians for you running them over.

[stan4]

Originally Posted by erieguy

When they don't always exist one needs to pay extra attention. Stay on the walks and there's much less chance of an accident happening. As fot the Pittsburgh left, pay attention. If one can't do that, no government can really do much more. Some people can't be helped...and there's other places to live.

Hey, genius. Almost every mva vs pedestrian I have attended has been with the pedestrian hit while on the sidewalk/shoulder/off the road. Bikes are different. Those tend to be hit on the roadway.

[pman]

A woman and her 13-year-old son were taken to the hospital this morning after being struck by a vehicle Downtown.

Read more: Mother, teen son injured Downtown - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
no report of the driver being taken to the hospital

[gg]

Originally Posted by pman

Read more: Mother, teen son injured Downtown - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
no report of the driver being taken to the hospital

Yep another SUV about running someone over on a nice sunny Saturday. Look at that dent. You should be in control of your vehicle/weapon at all times and be ready for anything ahead of you. Speed limits are too high in our city and people need to slow down. Luckily no one was killed this time, but soon enough someone will be killed, just like every year.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by pman

exactly, slow down save a life, and stop blaming pedestrians for you running them over.

Assuming I'm speeding and running someone over is your first mistake. Your second is blaming everybody in a vehicle. When everybody, including pedestrians pays attention and follows the rules, there will be less accidents.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by stan4

Hey, genius. Almost every mva vs pedestrian I have attended has been with the pedestrian hit while on the sidewalk/shoulder/off the road. Bikes are different. Those tend to be hit on the roadway.

Interesting. Please post those reports. Hard to believe almost every accident takes place off the road.

[BobMcKelvin]

Originally Posted by erieguy

When everybody, including pedestrians pays attention and follows the rules, there will be less accidents.

You keep saying this, but you fail to acknowledge that the RULE is that bikes are supposed to be ridden on the road, not the sidewalk. And the RULE says you have to respect them like you would any other vehicle on the road. Like you said, of we all did a better job of following the rules, there would be less accidents.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by BobMcKelvin

You keep saying this, but you fail to acknowledge that the RULE is that bikes are supposed to be ridden on the road, not the sidewalk. And the RULE says you have to respect them like you would any other vehicle on the road. Like you said, of we all did a better job of following the rules, there would be less accidents.

I keep saying this because its what needs to be done. However, complaining about drivers is easier.

So ride the bikes on the road if thats where theyre supposed to be ridden. Stay off to the side where they're supposed to be and I'm sure there will be less of a problem.

[jay5835]

Originally Posted by erieguy

When everybody, including pedestrians, pays attention and follows the rules, there will be fewer accidents.

Fixed.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Yup, and plenty of pedestrians doing the same. Everybody needs to pay attention. Drivers, pedestrians, and cyclists. When that happens there will be less accidents.

Yep, jay, said that before. Again, all one has to do is pay attention. Seems to be a tough thing for people to do.