Pittsburgh's black/white/hispanic relations (Lebanon, Washington: for sale, credit, living)

[AqueducTraveler]

Young hispanic couple moving to Pittsburgh next year
We don't care about the neighborhood's racial makeup. We are seeking for for a safe, energetic, centralized location within walking distance to good restaurants, bars and shops.

[selltheburgh]

Originally Posted by HeavenWood

I think that statement applies to far more than a "handful" of illegal aliens. Also, the underreporting issue applies to many Hispanic groups, Puerto Ricans being the most notable exception to the rule.

No. The handful are people I've personally met.

[Uptown kid]

Areas with Sizable Lower-Upper Middle Class Populations:
Sugar Top/Schenley Heights/Avalon Street-Brackenridge St area
Lower Hill
Point Breeze North
Southern Staton Heights
East Hills around Castila St
Broadrest Drive area in Lincoln
Chartiers City
Northern Windap
Lower Manchester
Parts of Observatory Hill
Garden City neighborhood of Monroeville
Penn Hills's Blackridge, Eastridge and even Rosedale neighborhoods
Wilkinsburg's Beacon Hill, Blackridge, Laketon/Laketon-McNary & Upper Penn neighborhoods
While there are a notable population scattered in: well to do areas of: Highland Park, East Liberty, Penn Hills & Monroeville.

The combination of Churchill+Forest Hills+Edgewood+Wilkins Township+North Braddock Heights+Braddock Hills = over 2500 blacks. Most of which, whom are middle class & send their children outside of Woodland Hills main schools.
Unlike the Northern or Southern Suburbs, in just Robinson & the Moon areas alone there are over 2000 blacks, yet that's still a minute percentage and not all of them are middle class.

Ghettos/rough places like: Beltzhoover, Upper Lincoln, Penn Hills's Long Vue Manor/Laketon Heights, Wilkinsburg's Princeton Park area, North Versailles's Crestas Terrace area & parts of Perry Hilltop actually have a decent amount comparatively to other ghettos. Up until the 2000's (when many died off with poor residents replacing them) both Homewood & Middle Hill had small majority middle class black streets. In Homewood, Tacoma St & most blocks of the streets around Westinghouse Highschool were actually lower-mid middle class. On the Hill, Francis Court & Midtown Square, among others streets, had a black middle class. Now Upper Manchester & Hoodtown are starting to attract young black professionals and maybe in 5yrs there will be more of them.

[Aqua Teen Carl]

Originally Posted by AqueducTraveler

Young hispanic couple moving to Pittsburgh next year
We don't care about the neighborhood's racial makeup. We are seeking for for a safe, energetic, centralized location within walking distance to good restaurants, bars and shops.

A voice of reason.

This attitude of "zomg racial diveristy" is nearly exclusive to white Americans. Everyone else just wants a nice place to live or raise a family.

[Uptown kid]

While middle class Hispanics of course have the liberty to live anywhere in Allegheny County, a lot seem to be greatly scattered from the outer suburbs to the wealthy city. Yet the biggest population seems to be in Monroeville.

However, Hispanic Infiltration of traditionally black or white: river towns (like Coraopolis), blue collar communities (parts of Beechview), and ghettos (like most of Mt. Oliver Boro) IS HAPPING MUCH FASTER. In Allentown & Beltzhoover they are slowly infiltrating similarly to the way blacks moved into Beltzhoover in the 50-60's/Allentown in the 90's-early 2000's. Although in Knoxville & Mt Oliver Boro they are very much apart of the community and some mislead youth are even joining the black street gangs. Same can be said for: Blair District Clairton, central McKeesport, the bad parts of Uniontown/Brownsville & Aliquippa/Beaver Falls. Even in the Zone 5 ghettos-central Wilkinsburg the Hispanic population is growing. Same can be said for Sheraden/Elloitt, McKees Rocks, Hazelwood, Homestead, the Woodland Hills ghettos (S.Swissvale to S. North Braddock/East Pittsburgh) & Duquesne. Although the the zone 6 ghettos besides (parts of) Sheraden/Elliott, Arlington/Carrick, the Northside black & white ghettos & the Hill District seem to have no influx.
-In Beechview & Monroeville there are even high connected drug trafficking groups.

*In this post I'm not intending to associate the majority of Hispanics with poverty or crime, I'm just stating my intel & observations

[Der Schwabe]

Love the reference to the honorable German immigrants, but so far off the mark it's hard to even know where to begin.

Why would they have needed German-language newspapers if they had so diligently resisted handouts and learned the language? Assimilation takes time and conformity isn't as simple as quickly adjusting to the American way of life as set in stone circa 1776. The same slurs have been invoked for decades against each successive wave of immigrants. Why did those pesky Germans have to open up their nuisance breweries all over the city? Scourge of the late 1800s for sure.

One example - Google News Archive Search

[SammyKhalifa]

Originally Posted by Der Schwabe

Love the reference to the honorable German immigrants, but so far off the mark it's hard to even know where to begin.

Why would they have needed German-language newspapers if they had so diligently resisted handouts and learned the language? Assimilation takes time and conformity isn't as simple as quickly adjusting to the American way of life as set in stone circa 1776. The same slurs have been invoked for decades against each successive wave of immigrants. Why did those pesky Germans have to open up their nuisance breweries all over the city? Scourge of the late 1800s for sure.

One example - Google News Archive Search

Interesting paper. Thanks for that

German Ideas (Reprint from the Pittsburgher Volksblatt)

Illinois Staats-Zeitung -- September 05, 1871
German Ideas (Reprint from the Pittsburgher Volksblatt)
Some American papers still confess their fear and anxiety at being Germanized.. But just what they don't want to be, they already partly are...Take, for example, the question of compulsory schooling. That is a "German idea". When it was first agitated here, only ten German-Americans went to bat for it. But the German idea gained ground from year to year. Already the states, New Hampshire, Michigan, even Texas have adopted compulsory school laws aside from Massachusetts and Vermont, where this institution existed long ago. In California the Republican Party which will probably win at the impending election, has come out for compulsory schooling, In Nebraska the people will vote soon on the new State Constitution, which, among other things, empowers the Legislature to introduce compulsory school attendance.

Even those who are devoted to Americanism in the narrower sense resist ever so stubbornly - the good German ideas spread farther and farther in the United States every year. But not to the disadvantage of the Anglo-Americans. By the enlargement of their intellectual awareness, by the transition of the stiff, one-sided, narrow Americanism into a state and nation that is penetrated with the spirit of Cosmopolitanism, they cannot lose, but only win.....

1871.

[Tinare]

My mother's grandmother never spoke English. All of her American born children spoke German to her. There just wasn't a huge need for her to learn to speak English. My great-grandparents settled in a German immigrant community and everyone she knew spoke German. She didn't work outside the house, and at the time (1890s), if the man became a naturalized U.S. citizen, the whole family did as well, so it's not like she needed to learn to speak any English to become a citizen. She just never felt the need to learn it.

[gg]

[quote=EggMaker;35145054]

Originally Posted by concept_fusion

Rich areas like Mt. Lebanon, Sewickley, Fox Chapel, Upper Saint Claire, are almost 100% white.

Many people don't realize that Sewickley is more than 7% African-American. There is an AME Zion church and other historically black churches, the Sewickley Community Center, and an annual homecoming weekend for African American families with Sewickley ties.

I want to point out that there is Sewickley and there is Sewickley Heights. People sometimes don't realize the very large homes up in the Borough are not part of Sewickley.

The racial makeup of Sewickley Borough is 97.35% White, 0.92% African American, 0.61% Asian, 0.20% from other races, and 0.92% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.31% of the population.

[ElijahAstin]

Sewickley
Population: 3,827
% White: 88.8
% Black: 7.3
% Asian: 1.3
% Hispanic/Latino: 1.8

Sewickley Hills
Population: 639
% White: 95.5
% Black: 2.3
% Asian: 1.4
% Hispanic/Latino: 1.9

Sewickley Heights
Population: 810
% White: 97.2
% Black: 0.6
% Asian: 0.9
% Hispanic/Latino: 1.6

So basically, the black population of Sewickley Heights consists of Lynn Swann.