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Old 01-29-2015, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I was discussing this with someone today.

Could part of this lagging be that we ALREADY had stuff in place?All these condominiums in downtown and the Strip District are in re-used buildings. In other cities, stuff would probably be demolished, then a new structure raised. That alone is millions more put into the economy.

Plus, the city in particular is improving, most would agree. But it is renewal, instead of SPRAWL, like they see in Nevada and other high growth areas of the West (and I wish it would stop, but oh well). Sprawl, again, is millions more for utilities and so on. But here, utilities are in place, thus skipping the jobs and money needed for it.

I do not know if this registers heavily against the rate of economic growth, but I do bet it makes some notably perceptible difference.
In Denver, some old abandoned factories have been demolished and condos built, but I can't think of any other big demo projects. You guys have funny ideas about the western US.

 
Old 01-29-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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In Denver, some old abandoned factories have been demolished and condos built, but I can't think of any other big demo projects. You guys have funny ideas about the western US.
Reusing old warehouses is big in places like Portland and Seattle too.

The amount of development on the Strip seems to be accelerating. It'll hopefully be impressive in 2 years time.
 
Old 01-29-2015, 01:20 PM
 
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I think the hilly terrain can hinder growth as well. It is hard to build a good highway system with connected neighborhoods when you are a city of hills and valleys.

It hurts franklin, oil city and especially a bigger city like pittsburgh.
San Francisco made it a selling point. Maybe bring back the trolleys?
 
Old 01-30-2015, 06:30 AM
 
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In Denver, some old abandoned factories have been demolished and condos built, but I can't think of any other big demo projects. You guys have funny ideas about the western US.
The "West" is an humongous area. Phoenix, Nevada in general, the Inland Empire, and numerous other places do not have an industrial past that has left re-usable structures, or ANY structures in their hinterlands. Sprawl results.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 08:49 PM
 
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The "West" is an humongous area. Phoenix, Nevada in general, the Inland Empire, and numerous other places do not have an industrial past that has left re-usable structures, or ANY structures in their hinterlands. Sprawl results.
Then maybe you could be more specific when you talk about it.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 09:36 PM
 
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Then maybe you could be more specific when you talk about it.
In reality you live on the eastern most border of the west. 50 miles east and you're are in Plainsville, Nowhere. For 1500 miles. Boulder is a great town though.

The 'west' is as meaningless a term as the 'east' in terms of capturing the diversity. And let's be honest Kat, Denver is a sprawly old city. And everyone there is prone to pedantry
 
Old 01-30-2015, 09:59 PM
 
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I don't find that honest at all! The urban- suburban ratio is about 1:4 in Denver; it's about 1:7 in Pittsburgh. Which city would you say has more sprawl?
 
Old 01-30-2015, 10:08 PM
 
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Then maybe you could be more specific when you talk about it.
Or, you can learn to think logically and connect the dots. You need things spoon fed to you, and frankly, it's not becoming in a public forum.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 10:10 PM
 
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I don't find that honest at all! The urban- suburban ratio is about 1:4 in Denver; it's about 1:7 in Pittsburgh. Which city would you say has more sprawl?
source?

All i know is when i drive south or west from DIA, its down right sprawly. the boredom suburbs go on for miles and miles and miles ...
 
Old 01-31-2015, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I don't find that honest at all! The urban- suburban ratio is about 1:4 in Denver; it's about 1:7 in Pittsburgh. Which city would you say has more sprawl?
That's not a measure of sprawl. That's just a measure of how much political consolidation/annexation is allowed by the state government. Pittsburgh hasn't annexed anything since 1930 and that was only Overbrook (less than one square mile). Denver is a consolidated city-county.
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