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Old 04-01-2015, 12:22 PM
 
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Does anyone know what purpose this serves? A turn on red to continue onto bigelow from the right lane is completely safe and helps keep traffic flowing.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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We should start a list of thoroughly unnecessary "No right turn on red" signs in Pittsburgh. We might crash the server.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Since when is that sign "new"? If you're talking about taking a right hand turn from Baum onto North Craig (with the Porsche dealership on your right), then that sign has been there as long as I can remember. That intersection is VERY dangerous, too, by the way. People coming down North Craig and turning left onto Baum often cut the corner too sharply and find themselves in the left-hand right turn lane from Baum onto North Craig. I saw a taxi and a car in a head-on collision there a few weeks ago, and I was nearly hit head-on a couple of nights ago as I blared my horn. I don't know what sort of law suit the city is waiting for before they decide to paint those dashed lane divider lines for people making that turn simultaneously. It seems like that intersection (among many others) would be ideal for a roundabout.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Since when is that sign "new"? If you're talking about taking a right hand turn from Baum onto North Craig (with the Porsche dealership on your right), then that sign has been there as long as I can remember. That intersection is VERY dangerous, too, by the way. People coming down North Craig and turning left onto Baum often cut the corner too sharply and find themselves in the left-hand right turn lane from Baum onto North Craig. I saw a taxi and a car in a head-on collision there a few weeks ago, and I was nearly hit head-on a couple of nights ago as I blared my horn. I don't know what sort of law suit the city is waiting for before they decide to paint those dashed lane divider lines for people making that turn simultaneously. It seems like that intersection (among many others) would be ideal for a roundabout.
Oh! Upon further reading I think you mean from outbound Bigelow to make a soft right to head down Bigelow towards the Residence Inn. Correct? I've always made a right-hand-turn-on-red there because other than yielding to the occasional pedestrian there's no way for you to be in the way of any other vehicle.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Lawrenceville
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Oh, great. That will be such a nice change. I bet they did it because they were tired of all the complaints from people travelling to Oakland that that intersection was too easy to get through.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Oh, great. That will be such a nice change. I bet they did it because they were tired of all the complaints from people travelling to Oakland that that intersection was too easy to get through.
Your talking about the same city officials who think the three-way stop sign near Phipps is "new and improved", even though all it has done since its inception is cause mass confusion and congestion, especially because the one direction's lane pulls you to the right to the stop sign but still permits you to turn left when you're already pretty much in the way. Talk about another prime candidate for a roundabout.
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:18 PM
 
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Oh! Upon further reading I think you mean from outbound Bigelow to make a soft right to head down Bigelow towards the Residence Inn. Correct? I've always made a right-hand-turn-on-red there because other than yielding to the occasional pedestrian there's no way for you to be in the way of any other vehicle.
Exactly. This. I should of been more specific.

The light up sign is new as of the last week.
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Old 04-02-2015, 06:40 AM
 
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One reason of several possible ones might be because of stacking.

The 'no turn on red' might be to prevent a line of cars forming:

There is street parking just beyond that bearing right.
There is the hotel, which would cause people to slow suddenly as they intend to enter the driveway.
Isn't there a kindergarden on the opposite side of the street? They have a parking lot, I believe - waiting to turn left into the lot may back up cars suddenly, as well.

The new 'no turn on red' might be in response to a local complaint, as well. If anyone does not like it, it's their prerogative to call whatever department (311?) and let them know why you think it's useless.
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Old 04-02-2015, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Lawrenceville
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I received word that the sign is not in use this morning. I wonder what kind of timer it's on.
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Old 04-02-2015, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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I received word that the sign is not in use this morning. I wonder what kind of timer it's on.
I always thought it was like the intersection of Wilkins & Beeler, where traffic heading westbound on Wilkins (towards Fifth) only ever has to stop if a pedestrian pushes the button to cross Wilkins. In this sense the "No Turn on Red" should only illuminate when a pedestrian has pushed the button to cross that leg of Bigelow---similar to how the signs illuminate at Shady & Forbes when the pedestrian signal is activated. I think one of these is necessary at Fifth & Wilkins as well. I see motorists and slow-moving CMU students playing chicken all the time in that very long crosswalk.
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