Middle class/nice and safe areas that don't have a shot in hell at getting gentrified (West Mifflin: to live, restaurants)

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Originally Posted by eschaton

That's not to say there still aren't "hip" places in Lawrenceville. Brillobox is still around, though I see a lot of med students there these days. AFAIK Remedy still has pretty good dance nights. Of course there's things like Wild Card and that pinball place. But the people hanging out in the neighborhood are just more generic young people with money these days, and less interesting. Or maybe I just got old.

I completely agree with you. I was afraid there for a bit that L-Ville was the next Southside, but instead it looks like the next Shadyside... Wild Card has lost whatever edge it once had... the pinball place and rowhouse cinemas attract that mainstream yuppie crowd... any interesting art gallery that was once there is now gone... and Industry Public House might as well be a chain restaurant in a strip mall in the suburbs. All the character of the neighborhood is indeed being sucked right out, along with the artists.

And you can forget old Lawrenceville. That's been gone since 2001.

Still the 10th Ward remains a last bastion of relative grit and interest... we'll see how long that lasts.

[PghYinzer]

Industry puts crushed ice in its Old Fashioneds and I have even seen them put ice in a Manhattan. It might as well be Ruby Tuesday at this point.

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by PghYinzer

Industry puts crushed ice in its Old Fashioneds and I have even seen them put ice in a Manhattan. It might as well be Ruby Tuesday at this point.

Like any good bar, they'll make the drinks the way the customer asks for them. If you don't care for crushed ice in yours, I'm sure they'll leave it out of it.


You might not care for Ruby Tuesday's, and I personally thought the experience at their CIII location several years ago was underwhelming myself. But they have a successful formula that resulted in hundreds of locations.

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Originally Posted by I_Like_Spam

Like any good bar, they'll make the drinks the way the customer asks for them. If you don't care for crushed ice in yours, I'm sure they'll leave it out of it.


You might not care for Ruby Tuesday's, and I personally thought the experience at their CIII location several years ago was underwhelming myself. But they have a successful formula that resulted in hundreds of locations.

I think that many people in and around Lawrenceville would agree that it doesn't need a Ruby Tuesday. Maybe they could put one in at the tourist district over on the North Shore.

[PghYinzer]

Completely missed the point of what I was saying. Industry now caters to a whole different crowd. That is fine, as it has basically become the Mario’s of Lawrenceville, but back in the day (maybe 2 years ago) they used to make really good drinks. Some of them still are, but classic drinks like an Old Fashioned and a Mahattan served incorrectly in what is supposed to the Brooklyn of Pgh means they have transitioned to something else. Not saying it is bad, just saying that it is. Maybe it is just the circle of gentrification.

Also, I believe that truly good bar wouldn’t make the drink anyway a customer asks for it. Why order a drink to only ask for 3 changes to the recipe? It’s like going into a restaurant and requesting they strip out 50% of the ingredients in a dish because you don’t like them. Unless the request is food allergy related (and even then one should consider ordering something different) why order something if you are going to actually receive something completely not what was on the menu.

[aw_now_what]

Originally Posted by Merge

Still the 10th Ward remains a last bastion of relative grit and interest... we'll see how long that lasts.

Hate to tell you, but one house on Carnegie Street has sold for more than $400,000, and another is under agreement for about that much.

[bluecarebear]

Originally Posted by PghYinzer92

if Ya remember what I was like out here maybe 6/7 years ago I would like to be around those types.

The good ol days.

I would nix anything on the Northside. It is a prime gentrification region.

[steindle]

Originally Posted by bluecarebear

The good ol days.

I would nix anything on the Northside. It is a prime gentrification region.

"Anything" on the Northside? I'm pretty confident that Marshall-Shadeland isn't going to triple in price any time in the next decade. And without a business district, it's hard to imagine Spring Hill going through the roof, really ever. Stabilizing and remaining solid working class areas, sure.

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Originally Posted by aw_now_what

Hate to tell you, but one house on Carnegie Street has sold for more than $400,000, and another is under agreement for about that much.

Yikes.

[RogersParkTransplant]

Originally Posted by steindle

"Anything" on the Northside? I'm pretty confident that Marshall-Shadeland isn't going to triple in price any time in the next decade. And without a business district, it's hard to imagine Spring Hill going through the roof, really ever. Stabilizing and remaining solid working class areas, sure.

Agreed. My street has families who have been here for generations. They're not going anywhere, and the transplants like us are low-key families eager to fit in and be part of the way things are. The gentrification of nearby areas will slowly make home values rise, but the high proportion of owner-occupied homes and the lack of a business district closer than the Strip will keep things from getting too funky.

We were exploring Pittview Ave today, and I thought of this thread. It was the perfect place from which to look down on Lawrenceville hipsters, so to speak.