Mon-Fayette-Expressway extension revived (Pittsburgh, Warren, Mercer: neighborhood, living in, moving)

[tclifton]

Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212

Pittsburgh has one of the highest uses of Transit in the nation buddy...

From a PG article in March:

Public transit ridership up in U.S. but down in Pittsburgh area | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Port Authority ridership fell to 63.4 million, a decline of 1.26 percent. It was the fourth year in the past five that ridership fell, the exception being 2012, when the authority opened the North Shore Connector rail extension. Transit use here peaked in 1975, when the agency provided 109.6 million rides. Since then, it has decreased by 42 percent.

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by doo dah

Cite?

The interactive data maps at //www.city-data.com

[doo dah]

Originally Posted by I_Like_Spam

The interactive data maps at //www.city-data.com

Specific cite?

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by doo dah

Specific cite?

The stat is in Pie Graph form, about 40% down from the front of this page.

//www.city-data.com/county/Alle...County-PA.html

[doo dah]

"Bus or trolley bus: 56,218 (10%)
Streetcar or trolley car: 3,059 (1%)
Subway or elevated: 1,179 (0%)
Railroad: 66 (0%)
Ferryboat: 84 (0%)"

Looks like > 11%, not 9.6%

Also:
Taxi: 479 (0%)
Motorcycle: 303 (0%)
Bicycle: 894 (0%)
Walked: 24,006 (4%)
Other means: 3,148 (1%)
Worked at home: 14,585 (3%)

From where did your 9.6% figure come from?

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by doo dah

"Bus or trolley bus: 56,218 (10%)
Streetcar or trolley car: 3,059 (1%)
Subway or elevated: 1,179 (0%)
Railroad: 66 (0%)
Ferryboat: 84 (0%)"

Looks like > 11%, not 9.6%

Also:
Taxi: 479 (0%)
Motorcycle: 303 (0%)
Bicycle: 894 (0%)
Walked: 24,006 (4%)
Other means: 3,148 (1%)
Worked at home: 14,585 (3%)

From where did your 9.6% figure come from?

Clicking on the maps, at the county level. There is a roll down menu, with all sorts of statistics, from analysis of each county and census tract as far as age, ethnicity, price of their homes. Really an interesting source of information.


In any event, whether its 11% or 9.6%, its only a small minority that goes to work by public transportation.

[Moby Hick]

That's a funny chart. It sums to 100% (with rounding). Which isn't really realistic unless I'm the only one who sometimes goes to work by bus and sometimes by car and sometimes by walking.

[captainmidnight]

The region just isn't a transit oriented culture. Most of the area requires a car to get around. Always has and always will and no big willingness to change that. I would love all these transit options to happen, i.e rail all over Allegheny county at least, dedicated line to airport, LRT extended to Oakland and east, etc but there isn't enough of a public push. A lot of people would desire and push for it, but unfortunately they would be silenced by the transit critics. A lot of them base their opinions on what they read and hear about the Port Authority but have rode the bus or T one day in their life.

I remember working with a woman in her mid-20's who lived in Mt. Washington with her husband (no kids). They both worked Downtown but at different places and they each drove their cars to park at the Strip District and then go straight home after work. It was crazy they both had cars living so close to where they work and they passed up a couple transit options.

I worked Downtown for seven years and took the bus most of the time and always had to justify my decision to family and friends who never rode transit and never will (they were usually disgusted by the thought and sadly that perception exists in the area).

That being said, the time to do these big transit projects was decades ago. The last big project (North Shore extension) had a good bit of federal money involved. Now the biggest and most ambitious project we have going for us is BRT, which is underwhelming at best.

[Moby Hick]

Originally Posted by bmantz65

The region just isn't a transit oriented culture.

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Now the biggest and most ambitious project we have going for us is BRT, which is underwhelming at best.

The reason BRT is proposed is because there a transit oriented culture, it just doesn't cover the region. The BRT covers the chunk of the region with a transit oriented culture that isn't served by the T or a busway. (See the map on page 5.)

http://ucsur.pitt.edu/wp-content/upl...eq_2011-12.pdf

[eschaton]

Click here (and zoom in, the link didn't work as the Census advertized) to see the most recent transportation statistics for the region by census tract.