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Old 11-18-2015, 08:09 AM
 
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On that note, why doesn't anyone refer to Dylan Roof and his ilk as terrorists? It seems like "terrorist" is a dog whistle term used to refer to a certain demographic.
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It's quicker & easier & cheaper to get the maximum penalty using South Carolina law & jurisdiction; labeling the act terrorism moves jurisdiction, prolongs the case & puts in place a lot of legal intricacies that can be avoided.

Same with the Nidal Hasan attack.

Demographics are not relevant. Everything isn't a conspiracy revolving around race believe it or not.

 
Old 11-18-2015, 08:12 AM
 
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It's quicker & easier & cheaper to get the maximum penalty using South Carolina law & jurisdiction; labeling the act terrorism moves jurisdiction, prolongs the case & puts in place a lot of legal intricacies that can be avoided.
I wasn't talking legally; I was talking about how people like him and their acts aren't discussed in the public sphere as terrorists.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 08:15 AM
 
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I wasn't talking legally; I was talking about how people like him and their acts aren't discussed in the public sphere as terrorists.
Many people referred it the act as an act of terror colloquially so not sure who you talked to or where you read about it. Again everything doesn't revolve around kooky racial conspiracy theories.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 08:16 AM
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South Hills it is. We aren't brainwashed out here. Hopefully, Peduto keeps this debacle inside the city limits where it belongs. Glad I see won't be using mass transit much longer.

The quote from the FBI director is widely reported. It was made during a Congressional hearing. Are you familiar with those? Or, maybe you are unable to use Google?
You aren't brainwashed out there yet, according to you, all the neighbors you asked have the same mindset. OK.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 08:20 AM
 
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Many people referred it the act as an act of terror colloquially so not sure who you talked to or where you read about it. Again everything doesn't revolve around kooky racial conspiracy theories.
Oh please, stop a random man on the street and ask him what the first three words are that come to mind when he hears the word "terrorist". There's nothing "kooky" or conspiratorial about observing how the word is used as a dog whistle term.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 08:22 AM
 
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The source is irrelevant. The FBI director is quoted at a Congressional hearing. It was widely reported.

You just don't want that information as it isn't consistent with your programming.

Should one of these 'refugees' actually be a terrorist, the damage to Pittsburgh will go beyond that of injuries to people and destruction of property.
Why trust a governmental official in this instance? Seems to be inconsistent with the anti-government theology you preach.

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“And so if someone has never made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interest reflected in our database, we can query our database until the cows come home, but there will be nothing show up because we have no record of them.”
So if they have no ripples, which I read to mean ties to terrorism, extremism or the like, they won't show in in their databases? Seems logical.

Terrorists stoke fear and the fearful overreaction here is exactly what they want. Ironic that you project the spoon-fed accusation that anyone who dares disagree with your extremist rhetoric must be programmed to ignore facts which might undermine one's point of view. And yet you ignore the nuanced, informative posts made upthread in favor of randomized threatening statements peppered throughout this thread warning us all of the impending attacks. You can't possibly believe this is a credible tact to take. Or maybe you do. And you will continue to proudly parade your child-like ignorance, rushing from one outrage to another.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 08:40 AM
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Saw a great quote today, sums all this up I think:

"You don't want all gun owners judged by the handful of lunatics that shoot up a mall yet you want to judge all Syrian asylum seekers by one possible lunatic's actions.
You don't want anyone to judge all Muslims by the actions of ISIS but you judge all Christians based on the actions of freaks like the Westboro Baptists.
Can't we be logically consistent?"
 
Old 11-18-2015, 08:42 AM
 
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Oh please, stop a random man on the street and ask him what the first three words are that come to mind when he hears the word "terrorist". There's nothing "kooky" or conspiratorial about observing how the word is used as a dog whistle term.
That's a completely different comment. Of course most people are going to associate the demographic that commits by far the most acts terror around the world to the demographic that, you know, commits the most terror acts around the world.

Stop a random man on the street & ask if the South Carolina massacre was an act of terror & you'd likely also get an affirmative response. No dog whistle needed.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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Old 11-18-2015, 09:56 AM
 
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That's a completely different comment. Of course most people are going to associate the demographic that commits by far the most acts terror around the world to the demographic that, you know, commits the most terror acts around the world.

Stop a random man on the street & ask if the South Carolina massacre was an act of terror & you'd likely also get an affirmative response. No dog whistle needed.
White males commit by far the most mass shootings in America, but I don't hear anyone suggesting that we don't let them buy guns "just in case." I wonder why the Syrian refugees are being treated differently.
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