Mayor Peduto Wants The Syrian Refugees To Come To Pittsburgh (Republic: authority, ethnicity)

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by I_Like_Spam

There were no stories of Bhutanese firing up Parisian cafes in advance of their arrival.

Which Syrians took part in the attacks?

Last I checked the one "Syrian" is thought to have been using the passport of a dead Syrian soldier. His real national identity is unknown. The 2 other Syrian passports found are thought to be forgeries.

[UKyank]

Originally Posted by Merge

I agree, and that definitely seems like a page from the playbook the GOP candidates (and party) are using right now, as we speak. They are looking for opportunities to exploit tragedy.

That's the playbook of every political party anywhere though - it's merely whether you personally agree or disagree with the subsequent policy being touted that you label it as either 'exploitation' or 'common sense'

[Der Schwabe]

Originally Posted by I_Like_Spam

There were no stories of Bhutanese firing up Parisian cafes in advance of their arrival.

Nor are there are there such stories of Syrian refugees.

Despite speculation, not one of the Paris attackers has so far been identified as a Syrian national.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...urn-them-away/

These are French and Belgian nationals who were radicalized despite growing up in the EU. Can we please pretend that we can read/comprehend the basic facts and background of the terrorist attack?

[Merge]

Originally Posted by erieguy

The best and most obvious post made.

Just to clarify for you, since I know what kind of reader you are:

There is still NO proof that there were any Syrian refugees among the Paris attackers. So what do you think the point is?

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by Merge

I agree, and that definitely seems like a page from the playbook the GOP candidates (and party) are using right now, as we speak. They are looking for opportunities to exploit tragedy.

Right now, you're just hearing candidates give advanced warning that the issue will be used if this doesn't work out.


That's actually good, as it will keep the powers that be on-point and make double sure that no one is admitted that poses a threat.

[Merge]

Originally Posted by I_Like_Spam

There were no stories of Bhutanese firing up Parisian cafes in advance of their arrival.

I guess there are STORIES of Syrian refugees among the Paris attackers... but so far, unsubstantiated.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Merge

Just to clarify for you, since I know what kind of reader you are:

There is still NO proof that there were any Syrian refugees among the Paris attackers. So what do you think the point is?

I believe the end point will be that chances aren't taken, refugees will not be taken in, and the discussion will be moot.

[Merge]

Originally Posted by I_Like_Spam

Right now, you're just hearing candidates give advanced warning that the issue will be used if this doesn't work out.


That's actually good, as it will keep the powers that be on-point and make double sure that no one is admitted that poses a threat.

Exactly... exploiting fear so they can win politically. That's what I said. They are almost, like, psychics. If the terrorists attack here, they can now blame the president... no matter the actual source of the terrorists. Pretty dirty trick, while simultaneously casting aside the victims of of their party comrades' previous policies. Very devious. I think it's a shame that the US citizenry is falling for it so easily, and that the GOP and its camp followers are so willing to see the refugees as collateral damage in an election campaign. Someone above even said "disgusting" and I'm increasingly inclined to agree.

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by eschaton

Which Syrians took part in the attacks?

Last I checked the one "Syrian" is thought to have been using the passport of a dead Syrian soldier. His real national identity is unknown. The 2 other Syrian passports found are thought to be forgeries.

"ISIS" stand for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, their capital of Raqqa is also claimed by the Syrian government.


The loyalty of the attackers in Paris were to a government or quasi-governmental group that is located in modern Syria.


The apparent fact that most, if not all, of the attackers were legal citizens or had legal status in the EU, doesn't change who they had loyalty to and who they were willing to die for.


Even if none of them had Syrian antecedents or had ever been there, the danger depends on their loyalties not on their ethnicity.

[PghYinzer]

Originally Posted by I_Like_Spam

"ISIS" stand for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, their capital of Raqqa is also claimed by the Syrian government.


The loyalty of the attackers in Paris were to a government or quasi-governmental group that is located in modern Syria.


The apparent fact that most, if not all, of the attackers were legal citizens or had legal status in the EU, doesn't change who they had loyalty to and who they were willing to die for.


Even if none of them had Syrian antecedents or had ever been there, the danger depends on their loyalties not on their ethnicity.

So if a native Syrian is not loyal to ISIS, they should be fine to enter? I mean there are French that are loyal to ISIS and not France so that means that there quite easily could be Syrians not loyal to ISIS.