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Old 11-18-2015, 04:09 PM
 
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Those against Syrian refugees are the same who turned away Jews during the Holocaust and next they demand internment camps for Syrian-Americans. Do we really want to repeat the unsavory parts of our history?

From 1938 "we do not want Jews from Europe, they may be a danger":
While lots of beliefs held in the 30s were repugnant (eugenics anyone?) that particular chart is fake.

 
Old 11-18-2015, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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This really gives Obama a chance to excel, and do what it takes to make sure this whole thing runs smooth as silk, defuse the whole issue.


If the President keeps Americans safe during this effort, there won't be any blame at all
Can't imagine many are trusting him pulling that off. The majority doesn't have much faith in him as it is and are counting the days until he's out.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 04:13 PM
 
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Maybe Obama can be held responsible after the GOP accepts its portion of responsibility for its role in creating ISIS AND the refugee crisis?

No. I'm sure this only works one way with you.

You guys are insane. You won't hold the GOP responsible for the real world consequences of their actions as they unfold in front of you...

but you are so anxious to blame Obama for a situation he did nothing to create, and something that hasn't even happened.

Nuts.
Both parties are to blame. Individuals within the parties may not be, but both made & continue to make poor decisions in that region. To say it was solely the GOP or the democrats or Obama is just being partisan.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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While lots of beliefs held in the 30s were repugnant (eugenics anyone?) that particular chart is fake.
Please don't just make things up. It erodes what little credibility you have left.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-world-war-ii/
 
Old 11-18-2015, 05:01 PM
 
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Please don't just make things up. It erodes what little credibility you have left.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-world-war-ii/
I was going with snopes.

1938 Harvard Crimson Poll on 'Jewish Refugees' : snopes.com
 
Old 11-18-2015, 05:22 PM
 
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Both parties are to blame. Individuals within the parties may not be, but both made & continue to make poor decisions in that region. To say it was solely the GOP or the democrats or Obama is just being partisan.
I was talking specifically about the invasion of Iraq in the wake of 9-11... the military operation that enabled ISIS to get a foothold in Iraq and Syria. What Democrats were responsible for that invasion again? Joe Lieberman?
 
Old 11-18-2015, 05:25 PM
 
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I was talking specifically about the invasion of Iraq in the wake of 9-11... the military operation that enabled ISIS to get a foothold in Iraq and Syria. What Democrats were responsible for that invasion again? Joe Lieberman?
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Old 11-18-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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Bayh (D-IN)
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Oh yes... the Congressional vote... after the Bush Administration doctored up some BS about WMDs. Yes, I remember. You can tell yourself anything you want about spreading the blame around. It's nonsense. Bush was the decider-in-chief and it was the GOP's baby.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Different chart, bro.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 05:38 PM
 
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Oh yes... the Congressional vote... after the Bush Administration doctored up some BS about WMDs. Yes, I remember. You can tell yourself anything you want about spreading the blame around. It's nonsense. Bush was the decider-in-chief and it was the GOP's baby.
Yes, of course they were baboozled into voting I forgot. As for Syria I place that blame on Obama for helping to weaken Assad, as Iraq should have taught us that removing a ruthless dictator in that part of the world is a bad idea. When in doubt don't follow a bush policy.

Luckily foreigners don't have to try & put into a box which political party did this or that with whatever nuances each party uses & can just say America f'd up there
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