Pittsburgh's Finest leaving in droves (Philadelphia, Reading: 2014, homes, schools)

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by gladhands

Oh, I see. It has an option for those who want to become police officers to PAY TUITION to train themselves. Again; suburban districts do not bear the expense of training their police force:

Police Training Academy | Basic Training Tuition
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The only option I can see for you to accept reality and keep the officers from leaving is to take care of them better. If not, like every profession, they will leave for greener pastures.

[UKyank]

I bit ironic that the same people who routinely rail on against the city police in any other thread involving police actions are talking them up in this thread...

[Merge]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Sounds like sour grapes stands in the way of reality. Obviously parents paying rent isn't limited to any one area.

I believe that what gladhands meant was that the suburbs drain the resources of the city by extracting trained officers, and then burbanites proceed to deliver lectures about the city's lack of appreciation for its police force.


And again, losing 1.7% of officers to the burbs doesn't seem as significant as you (and KDKA) are making it out to be. Where are the "droves" mentioned in the headline? Mountains out of molehills, actually... mere sensationalism.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by UKyank

I bit ironic that the same people who routinely rail on against the city police in any other thread involving police actions are talking them up in this thread...

My thoughts exactly. You'd think they'd be escorting them out of the city.

[Merge]

Originally Posted by UKyank

I bit ironic that the same people who routinely rail on against the city police in any other thread involving police actions are talking them up in this thread...

Just because people have criticism for the actions of some police, it doesn't mean that these critics want to see cops undercompensated. I think it's ironic to see all the "fiscal conservatives" advocate for paying public servants more than they are already getting. I guess the authoritarian nature of the police is appealing for some...

[MountainDewGuy]

The city needs to adjust the police pay structure so that the average officer earns more and the top 50 city salaries aren't dominated by almost purely by tenured police officers. This is the same problem with teachers.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Merge

I believe that what gladhands meant was that the suburbs drain the resources of the city by extracting trained officers, and then burbanites proceed to deliver lectures about the city's lack of appreciation for its police force.


And again, losing 1.7% of officers to the burbs doesn't seem as significant as you (and KDKA) are making it out to be. Where are the "droves" mentioned in the headline? Mountains out of molehills, actually... mere sensationalism.

Doubtful the burbs are luring them away. When one becomes unhappy with their place of employment they look elsewhere.

As Ukyank mentioned, the same ones who constantly complain about the behavior of the city police are the ones complaining they're leaving.

Again, depends on how much $$$ it costs to train and retrain.

[norcider]

Originally Posted by UKyank

I bit ironic that the same people who routinely rail on against the city police in any other thread involving police actions are talking them up in this thread...

I'm not taking up for them. I know the Pgh police have had a serious problem with policing their own bad cops. The Nate Harper scandal, the beating of that high school kid in Homewood, other numerous shady goings on. I am hoping this new chief gets a handle on the corruption and abuse of power. The suspension of that cop beating up the drunk kid at one of the ball fields was a breath of fresh air. Aside from Harper, which they HAD to make an example of to save their butts, I can't remember a cop being disciplined for much in recent history.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Merge

Just because people have criticism for the actions of some police, it doesn't mean that these critics want to see cops undercompensated. I think it's ironic to see all the "fiscal conservatives" advocate for paying public servants more than they are already getting. I guess the authoritarian nature of the police is appealing for some...

For those that want them to stay, more $$$ is always a factor in keeping an employee, especially when others are getting more.

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by Merge

Do you really think the city needs to direct its resources to address the 1.7% of officers who leave the city annually for the burbs? I think it's very close to a non-issue at this level of attrition. And as Norcider points out, there is no shortage of replacement applicants.

1.7% is 21 officers a year, sounds sort of significant.


This is just those who stay in policing, there are retirees and quits to add to that.


Maybe there isn't anything that can be done, but solutions should at least be considered.