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Old 05-28-2016, 06:24 PM
 
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Potholes, cracked pavements, I even know this one street in Homestead that's so bad that you are basically risking tearing your vehicle up by driving up it and it's a one way street at that! I have seen streets in small towns that for the most part are kept up better than the ones here, HORRIBLE!
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Old 05-28-2016, 06:33 PM
 
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Freeze thaw cycle.
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Old 05-28-2016, 07:13 PM
 
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Freeze/thaw, heavier use over time (less walking or using PAT), poor construction without regard to sub-base/base...there are probably other reasons. It's a plague across the mid-atlantic and eastern canadian urban areas.
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Old 05-28-2016, 08:07 PM
 
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Potholes, cracked pavements, I even know this one street in Homestead that's so bad that you are basically risking tearing your vehicle up by driving up it and it's a one way street at that! I have seen streets in small towns that for the most part are kept up better than the ones here, HORRIBLE!

Homestead is not in Pittsburgh.
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Old 05-28-2016, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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What does Homestead have to do with public works in the city?
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Old 05-29-2016, 07:49 AM
 
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See also: Philadelphia.

Maybe it has something to do with the management of upkeep and paving schedules, or labor and equipment contracts, used by the large cities in PA.
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Old 05-29-2016, 08:42 AM
 
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I'd guess a good quarter-century, more probably, of deferred maintenance. Look at these numbers for population drop and median income.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead,_Pennsylvania
Who do you think is paying for street maintenance, and with what money? It's another argument in favor of the consolidation touched on in the Denver train thread, maybe. 3000 people times 13k annual income is not much support for public works or anything else.
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Old 05-30-2016, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Freeze thaw cycle.
That's virtually all the US north of I-40.
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Old 05-30-2016, 11:00 PM
 
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That's virtually all the US north of I-40.
Pittsburgh gets alot of freeze and thaw that most other places don't, it can be almost every night. Plus with the hills we tend to use alot more road salt than most areas. Plus alot of potholes are filled with cold patch that does not work.
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Old 05-31-2016, 05:01 AM
 
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Pittsburgh gets alot of freeze and thaw that most other places don't, it can be almost every night. Plus with the hills we tend to use alot more road salt than most areas. Plus alot of potholes are filled with cold patch that does not work.
Not sure that is entirely true - it can work, if installed properly. There definitely are patches all around that last - you can tell because of the darker color compared to the pavement around it (it being darker because it is newer).

I think you you have to clean out the pothole, grind it down to a concave shape, then fill it, for cold patch to work. (This can be verified as accurate or not with some online research.) It's probable that crews do not do this because of the time it would take, and/or they do not realize this prep work is needed for a good bond.

It may be that people driving on a soft, recently placed patch destroys it, too.
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