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Old 04-21-2017, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Should they check for lead in The White House?
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:25 AM
 
Location: United States
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There is no proven "safe" level of lead exposure, just a slow decrease in affects like lowered IQ and heightened anger as lead exposure drops. Indeed, it's been suggested in recent years that the general downward trend in crime over a 25-year period was due to falling rates of sub-clinical lead exposure among teens and young adults.
Ok I've heard it all now. LoL

In another sub forum here at CD a criminologist explained the drop in crime using facts, and data, not "suggestions".

Lead paint concerns are so unbelievably blown out of proportion, heck, just look at this thread.

I would be many times more worried about the water, than the minute levels of lead in paint that may, or may not be in your home.

If you don't have serious water filters (such as ceramic filters) why would you worry about lead in your paint?


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Should they check for lead in The White House?
If lead is as bad for you as the fear mongers think, going by the previous four administrations, the White House must be loaded with lead paint.
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Old 04-21-2017, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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If lead is as bad for you as the fear mongers think, going by the previous four administrations, the White House must be loaded with lead paint.


Only four?
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Ok I've heard it all now. LoL

In another sub forum here at CD a criminologist explained the drop in crime using facts, and data, not "suggestions".

Lead paint concerns are so unbelievably blown out of proportion, heck, just look at this thread.

I would be many times more worried about the water, than the minute levels of lead in paint that may, or may not be in your home.

If you don't have serious water filters (such as ceramic filters) why would you worry about lead in your paint?


If lead is as bad for you as the fear mongers think, going by the previous four administrations, the White House must be loaded with lead paint.
You have never heard this before? There are literally hundreds of thousands of peer-reviewed studies that link led exposure in childhood with cognitive impairments, delinquency, and violence perpetration. I assure you it is very fact/data based.
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:07 PM
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Lead paint is everywhere in Pittsburgh. If you have an older house be careful of your window sills. Interior walls get painted over with newer paint but not many people think about the paint in the sills. Open your windows for an incoming breeze and the toxic paint can go airborne. This isn't speculation it's science. Every time the city knocks down an abandoned house there is a real risk of lead paint exposure in the air; they crush the house and paint along with it. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not going in your lungs.
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Lead paint is everywhere in Pittsburgh. If you have an older house be careful of your window sills. Interior walls get painted over with newer paint but not many people think about the paint in the sills. Open your windows for an incoming breeze and the toxic paint can go airborne. This isn't speculation it's science. Every time the city knocks down an abandoned house there is a real risk of lead paint exposure in the air; they crush the house and paint along with it. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not going in your lungs.
In my experience the two most common places for lead paint in an old Pittsburgh house are the interior wood trim (if painted) and foundation. Interior walls were usually do not have lead paint.
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Ok I've heard it all now. LoL

In another sub forum here at CD a criminologist explained the drop in crime using facts, and data, not "suggestions".

Lead paint concerns are so unbelievably blown out of proportion, heck, just look at this thread.

I would be many times more worried about the water, than the minute levels of lead in paint that may, or may not be in your home.

If you don't have serious water filters (such as ceramic filters) why would you worry about lead in your paint?




If lead is as bad for you as the fear mongers think, going by the previous four administrations, the White House must be loaded with lead paint.
You must not have heard it all as this is a very common and well known impact of lead exposure. But if someone on this site claims to be a criminologist they must be the real deal.....
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Old 04-21-2017, 04:25 PM
 
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In my experience the two most common places for lead paint in an old Pittsburgh house are the interior wood trim (if painted) and foundation. Interior walls were usually do not have lead paint.
Lead was used on trim work a lot because it didn't leave brush strokes.
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Old 04-21-2017, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Ok I've heard it all now. LoL

In another sub forum here at CD a criminologist explained the drop in crime using facts, and data, not "suggestions".

Lead paint concerns are so unbelievably blown out of proportion, heck, just look at this thread.

I would be many times more worried about the water, than the minute levels of lead in paint that may, or may not be in your home.

If you don't have serious water filters (such as ceramic filters) why would you worry about lead in your paint?




If lead is as bad for you as the fear mongers think, going by the previous four administrations, the White House must be loaded with lead paint.
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You have never heard this before? There are literally hundreds of thousands of peer-reviewed studies that link led exposure in childhood with cognitive impairments, delinquency, and violence perpetration. I assure you it is very fact/data based.
I hadn't heard that before. However, I do not think lead paint concerns are totally blown out of proportion. WRT crime, readers might want to take a look at this: Does Lead Exposure Cause Violent Crime? The Science is Still Out - The Crux

Keep in mind, correlation does not equal causation. Ask anyone involved in vaccine administration. The correlation with vaccines and autism does not show causation. There is a similar correlation between organic food purchases and autism increase. Back before polio vaccine, researchers noted a correlation between ice cream sales and polio incidence. Some seriously studied ice cream intake as a risk factor for polio. The reality is they both increased in the summer months.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:43 PM
 
Location: United States
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You have never heard this before? There are literally hundreds of thousands of peer-reviewed studies that link led exposure in childhood with cognitive impairments, delinquency, and violence perpetration. I assure you it is very fact/data based.
You are arguing a point I never made.

I didn't say there isn't health effects with lead exposure. I said the concerns over lead exposure from paint (that hasn't been used in 40 years) is overblown.

If people are concerned about their children being poisoned by lead, or anything else, they should be much more concerned about the water. People will spend thousands removing lead based paint, but won't spend a few hundred dollars for a quality filtering system for their drinking water.

Also, remember that lead can be absorbed through the skin, so don't think that just because your children don't drink tap water that they aren't being exposed to lead in the water. If your children are bathed using tap water, they are being exposed to the lead in the water.

Of course there are many other hazardous substances in the water, but that is a whole other subject.
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