Affordable Housing in Pittsburgh (Allentown, Lebanon: top neighborhoods, Home Depot, neighborhoods)

[wpipkins2]

Originally Posted by Lost_In_Translation

I beg to differ. There are roads in the south hills that run by hundreds of livable houses that have dozens of potholes and that's neglecting the alleys which are practically reclaimed by nature. I know the run-off projects and while admirable, are drops in the bucket compared with the crumbling infrastructure all around the city proper. Roads are falling on housing in the south hills.


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I live in the glorious East End and the roads have never been better. Even the LED streetlights are becoming more common. South Hills to me does not equal the city proper. Are you referring to the Southside hill tops? If so those areas are a decade behind places like Larimer. Once it gets to a point of no return community groups can brain storm and come up with ideas for the blank slate. I never thought Larimer would come back but it is on its way. It is centralized and well connected to public transit and urban amenities.


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[Lost_In_Translation]

Originally Posted by wpipkins2

I live in the glorious East End and the roads have never been better. Even the LED streetlights are becoming more common. South Hills to me does not equal the city proper. Are you referring to the Southside hill tops? If so those areas are a decade behind places like Larimer. Once it gets to a point of no return community groups can brain storm and come up with ideas for the blank slate. I never thought Larimer would come back but it is on its way. It is centralized and well connected to public transit and urban amenities.


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Congratulations...your east end elitism knows no bounds...

[xdv8]

Originally Posted by Lost_In_Translation

Congratulations...your east end elitism knows no bounds...

The East End represents an outsize percentage of the city's population, land area, jobs, hospitals, universities etc. Are you really suggesting that each area gets an equal amount of attention and funding?

[Lost_In_Translation]

Originally Posted by xdv8

The East End represents an outsize percentage of the city's population, land area, jobs, hospitals, universities etc. Are you really suggesting that each area gets an equal amount of attention and funding?

given that there is extra funding apparently for playing political games with housing on the east end, maybe the south hills should be considered for cash influx to improve its infrastructure and encourage investment for displaced east end tenants...or we can let the edges of Pittsburgh wither to focus on the trendy areas.

[wpipkins2]

Originally Posted by Lost_In_Translation

given that there is extra funding apparently for playing political games with housing on the east end, maybe the south hills should be considered for cash influx to improve its infrastructure and encourage investment for displaced east end tenants...or we can let the edges of Pittsburgh wither to focus on the trendy areas.

Homewood, Larimer, and most of Garfield are far from trendy. These communities along with the Hill District and Bloomfield have individuals that are heavily invested in the communities and work hard to address complex issues. This did not happen overnight.

[xdv8]

Originally Posted by Lost_In_Translation

given that there is extra funding apparently for playing political games with housing on the east end, maybe the south hills should be considered for cash influx to improve its infrastructure and encourage investment for displaced east end tenants...or we can let the edges of Pittsburgh wither to focus on the trendy areas.

I agree completely. Neglected areas need focus, but calling people East End elitists because we are engaged is goofy. Like Mr. wpipkins keeps saying, it takes community involvement and organized voices and the East End groups have done that.

[Lost_In_Translation]

Originally Posted by wpipkins2

Homewood, Larimer, and most of Garfield are far from trendy. These communities along with the Hill District and Bloomfield have individuals that are heavily invested in the communities and work hard to address complex issues. This did not happen overnight.

This whole topic started with talking about east liberty and penn plaza. You've pivoted to general affordable housing in these areas when apparently your argument about the poor people in East Liberty got shot down. As long as the city is not favoring development in one area over another to the detriment of truly affordable areas, the PPP's can do whatever development they want, but I see lots of city hall dollars pouring into the google uber areas and neglecting the less interesting residential areas because they are being squeaky wheels about redevelopment. It's a short sighted view that will perpetuate long term issues in the city.

[Lost_In_Translation]

Originally Posted by xdv8

I agree completely. Neglected areas need focus, but calling people East End elitists because we are engaged is goofy. Like Mr. wpipkins keeps saying, it takes community involvement and organized voices and the East End groups have done that.

Specifically I called pipkin elitism because he said he didn't consider the southern hilltop city proper and appeared very dismissive of the issues there.

[wpipkins2]

Originally Posted by Lost_In_Translation

Specifically I called pipkin elitism because he said he didn't consider the southern hilltop city proper and appeared very dismissive of the issues there.

You referred to the Southside hill top communities as the South Hills. The South Hills are south of the city proper. Mt. Lebanon and Upper Saint Clair are the south hills. Smoke and mirrors?

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Lost_In_Translation

This whole topic started with talking about east liberty and penn plaza. You've pivoted to general affordable housing in these areas when apparently your argument about the poor people in East Liberty got shot down. As long as the city is not favoring development in one area over another to the detriment of truly affordable areas, the PPP's can do whatever development they want, but I see lots of city hall dollars pouring into the google uber areas and neglecting the less interesting residential areas because they are being squeaky wheels about redevelopment. It's a short sighted view that will perpetuate long term issues in the city.

Could always raise the taxes in that area to help the situation. After all, if more money is being used there and those voices are so concerned, the same residents shouldn't have issue with giving more to help the situation/s they have issue/s with.