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Old 07-11-2017, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Old 07-11-2017, 04:23 PM
 
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Good point. Yes it was there long before the suburbs learned of it from Marty Grifffin
The homeless population on the northside (& other areas) has certainly very visibly grown as have the issues associated that such a population brings. I believe the main criticism of the mayor besides the burgeoning homeless numbers itself is the general feeling that he's fine with it so long as it's not an issue in say Point Breeze.

I don't think he's the 'worst mayor ever' but he's also not a particularly good one thus far as his actual accomplishments have been very minimal which is a shame as I had high hopes when voting for him in the last election.
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Old 07-11-2017, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I believe the main criticism of the mayor besides the burgeoning homeless numbers itself is the general feeling that he's fine with it so long as it's not an issue in say Point Breeze.
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That permanent homeless camp has been on the Northside all of my life. This is nothing new. Peduto at least had the heart to relocate the individuals instead of bulldozing and throwing away homeless peoples belongings.
I would rather see the people live in permanent shelters and given mental health therapy, including rehab options. The northside camp choice seems to be the most cost effective and the least problematic for the favored neighborhoods.
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Old 07-11-2017, 05:15 PM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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The homeless population on the northside (& other areas) has certainly very visibly grown as have the issues associated that such a population brings. I believe the main criticism of the mayor besides the burgeoning homeless numbers itself is the general feeling that he's fine with it so long as it's not an issue in say Point Breeze.

I don't think he's the 'worst mayor ever' but he's also not a particularly good one thus far as his actual accomplishments have been very minimal which is a shame as I had high hopes when voting for him in the last election.
Yep, we are becoming super liberal and with that comes a host of problems like a TON of homeless people moving in and more crime. Wish I could just avoid the city all the time these days, but it is what it is. I think Pedudo isn't all that great, but I liked Murphy and many people didn't like him much.
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Old 07-11-2017, 05:46 PM
 
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I would rather see the people live in permanent shelters and given mental health therapy, including rehab options. The northside camp choice seems to be the most cost effective and the least problematic for the favored neighborhoods.
Exactly; if you're choosing to be homeless then you have obvious mental issues that should be dealt with. If you're not choosing to be but are because of life circumstances then food, shelter & other assistance would be phenomenally helpful & if drugs are the issue then again, assistance is needed. Shoving people off into a camp is both detrimental to the homeless & the residents & I don't know how anyone can support such a policy
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Old 07-11-2017, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Asia
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Not from where I sit. He has done a terrible job. He is more interested in creating a national image for himself than he is doing what is good for the city. What good that is happening is in spite of him.
I just wish he'd put some freaking road signs around the city!

How is there no sign directing out-of-town drivers the way to Rt. 28 when you come out of the Fort Pitt Tunnel, and still no signage for 28 when you cross the Fort Pitt Bridge, and still no direction to 28 when you get to the Fort Duquesne Bridge?

There are signs for 376, 279, and 65, but no signage for 28.
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Old 07-11-2017, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Manchester
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I just wish he'd put some freaking road signs around the city!

How is there no sign directing out-of-town drivers the way to Rt. 28 when you come out of the Fort Pitt Tunnel, and still no signage for 28 when you cross the Fort Pitt Bridge, and still no direction to 28 when you get to the Fort Duquesne Bridge?

There are signs for 376, 279, and 65, but no signage for 28.
Because you have to get onto 279 before you get onto 28. There are also no signs for 22 on the Ft Pitt Bridge because you first have to travel on 376.

I also believe that would be a state level issue, not a mayoral issue.
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Old 07-11-2017, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Manchester
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Exactly; if you're choosing to be homeless then you have obvious mental issues that should be dealt with. If you're not choosing to be but are because of life circumstances then food, shelter & other assistance would be phenomenally helpful & if drugs are the issue then again, assistance is needed. Shoving people off into a camp is both detrimental to the homeless & the residents & I don't know how anyone can support such a policy
What policy? To place homeless people in camps? Where is that a policy? You cannot force treatment, so you can offer assistance and keep forcing them to move around, but you can’t make them not be homeless. I believe their stance is they will not kick them out of that area, and throw everything they own away while they can work with them to get them the help they need. That help though cannot be forced.
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh's North Side
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Exactly; if you're choosing to be homeless then you have obvious mental issues that should be dealt with. If you're not choosing to be but are because of life circumstances then food, shelter & other assistance would be phenomenally helpful & if drugs are the issue then again, assistance is needed. Shoving people off into a camp is both detrimental to the homeless & the residents & I don't know how anyone can support such a policy
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What policy? To place homeless people in camps? Where is that a policy? You cannot force treatment, so you can offer assistance and keep forcing them to move around, but you can’t make them not be homeless. I believe their stance is they will not kick them out of that area, and throw everything they own away while they can work with them to get them the help they need. That help though cannot be forced.

I spend a lot of time around the Northside's homeless population; I make a point of engaging with them, talking to them, and talking to the people who work at the facilities around here (esp. Light of Life). Aside from just generally agreeing with PghYinzer, I just want to add that yes, mental illness is a huge problem for a large percentage of these people, but there's a lot more to it too -- drug abuse is sadly also rampant. All that can really be done, short of outright incarceration (which I would very strongly oppose), is to make the resources freely available. That's what is being done. Nobody likes the fact that the camp exists, but it's not some grand plan on anyone's part (including Peduto's). It's just the reality of a city, and every city has some version of this, and there are things we can do to help individual people but there's always going to be some that slip through the cracks -- not because anyone wanted them to slip through, but because they have individual agency and will live as they live. It's sad and it's hard to watch, but I honestly do think there are smart people working hard to improve the situation for everyone, as much as it can be improved, in the cases that are not damaged beyond repair.
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:20 PM
 
Location: United States
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I've never heard a Republican say they would vote for Biden.

Dems said there was going to be a large numbers of Republicans that were going to vote for Hillary, I got a good laugh over that one.
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