Pittsburgh: Midwestern City or Northeastern City? (middle-class, bike, metropolitan area)

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Originally Posted by bradjl2009

You forgot to add Southie and Dorchester when in Boston too .

And the entire state of New Jersey...

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Originally Posted by Bitey

We got along just fine, thank you. Especially those who weren't rude enough to fancy themselves as being above this "hayseed" from the Midwest.

Don't be so sensitive. The guy that called Midwesterners "hayseeds" is our resident curmudgeon and a hillbilly himself.

He lives in a very wealthy area, but he is definitely a hillbilly. Not at all "sophisticated"...

[Mtl-Cns]

Originally Posted by bradjl2009

You forgot to add Southie and Dorchester when in Boston too .

You're right - the possibilities for northeastern sophistication are nearly boundless. I also forgot on his way to Staten Island he could've also visited the crowned jewel of northeastern sophisticates in the metropolis of Newark NJ!

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Bitey

Wow, you sure are a touchy bunch.


Oh sure, there was nothing but Ivy League scholars at PNC Park!


We got along just fine, thank you. Especially those who weren't rude enough to fancy themselves as being above this "hayseed" from the Midwest.


I can't even guess what gave you the idea I think any such thing.

You obviously ran into disgruntled Bucs fans. That's to be expected.

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OMG! I just realized I hit the wrong button when I voted. Is there any way to void my vote so I can vote again? Yac?

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Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

OMG! I just realized I hit the wrong button when I voted. Is there any way to void my vote so I can vote again? Yac?

You've lost the internet.
Cheers!

[bradjl2009]

Originally Posted by erieguy

You obviously ran into disgruntled Bucs fans. That's to be expected.

Baseball is the last thing on the list of things I'd do for fun.

Originally Posted by Mtl-Cns

You're right - the possibilities for northeastern sophistication are nearly boundless. I also forgot on his way to Staten Island he could've also visited the crowned jewel of northeastern sophisticates in the metropolis of Newark NJ!

Thanks for the reminder. How bitter I am we will never be as good or sophisticated as those areas

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by bradjl2009

Baseball is the last thing on the list of things I'd do for fun.



Thanks for the reminder. How bitter I am we will never be as good or sophisticated as those areas

A lot of bitter people there. Best ballpark in baseball though.

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From the replies on this thread, it seems like there are basically two kinds of people who think Pittsburgh is in the Midwest.

1. People who have never been to, or haven't spent much time, in Pittsburgh.

2. People who have never been to, or haven't spent much time, on the east coast.

[RogersParkTransplant]

One thing that really strikes me is how many people want to define regions by topography (ie, Midwest = flat lands) or else culture (which leads to a never-ending fight about what constitutes culture).

I think the real reason I see a kind of Rust Belt continuity from Baltimore through Pittsburgh and Cleveland (and might also add a few smaller cities to the mix, like Toledo) is that I am mostly interested in architecture, and the trajectory of these cities as having built a lot of rather glamorous structures in the general period 1880-1940 before experiencing a steep postwar decline. But that tells you a lot about me, and how I think, and what I do for a living; I can see where people who define the question differently aren't ever going to put Cleveland and Baltimore in the same box, or Pittsburgh for that matter.