What don't you like about Pittsburgh? (York, Shenandoah: crime, how much, neighborhoods)

[Goodjules]

Originally Posted by Tallysmom

Pittsburgh's grayer. Oh, yeah.

That's why anyone who can runs over the state lines and stocks up...

Grayer than SF, really? I'm talking about the sunset district in July when you literally don't see sun ever. I remember before we had a clothes dryer, my mom used to hang the clothes to dry in the living room because it was so foggy outside, nothing ever dried. I remember coming home with wet hair from walking in the fog in summer. Cold & windy too. Spring and fall were clear. But it was cold and rainy in the winter and windy and foggy in the summer. The Mission District and the east side of SF have a much nicer climate, but the west side is very gray. Well, even if it's gray, Pittsburgh certainly is warmer in the summer!

Is it legal to stock up across state lines? I'd go nuts paying inflated prices after being used to "2 buck Chuck" and $5.99 Barefoot Bubbly from Trader Joe's!

[londonbarcelona]

Originally Posted by juliegt

Grayer than SF, really? I'm talking about the sunset district in July when you literally don't see sun ever. I remember before we had a clothes dryer, my mom used to hang the clothes to dry in the living room because it was so foggy outside, nothing ever dried. I remember coming home with wet hair from walking in the fog in summer. Cold & windy too. Spring and fall were clear. But it was cold and rainy in the winter and windy and foggy in the summer. The Mission District and the east side of SF have a much nicer climate, but the west side is very gray. Well, even if it's gray, Pittsburgh certainly is warmer in the summer!

Is it legal to stock up across state lines? I'd go nuts paying inflated prices after being used to "2 buck Chuck" and $5.99 Barefoot Bubbly from Trader Joe's!

It sure sounds to me that what your describing is pretty grey. If it's like that all the time, you will appreciate the summers and autumns in Pittsburgh. It's not west coast sunshine, but when I visited my home in Venetia, I thought those two seasons were pretty nice. And it depends on what one considers a sunny day. To me, a FEW clouds in the sky (that generally don't block the sun) is still a fairly sunny day to me. Winters and springs are pretty grey there, and it does rain A LOT. However, as one person said, it is lush though from all the rain.

[fleetiebelle]

Winters and springs are pretty grey there, and it does rain A LOT. However, as one person said, it is lush though from all the rain.

Ireland's like this, too, and it's a tourist mecca. Pittsburgh could learn something there.

[londonbarcelona]

Originally Posted by fleetiebelle

Ireland's like this, too, and it's a tourist mecca. Pittsburgh could learn something there.

I've been to Ireland, trust me, Pittsburgh is NOTHING like Ireland. Nice try though.

[fleetiebelle]

Oh, I know, believe me. It's just that a lot of nice places have crappy weather.

[Tallysmom]

Originally Posted by juliegt

Grayer than SF, really? I'm talking about the sunset district in July when you literally don't see sun ever. I remember before we had a clothes dryer, my mom used to hang the clothes to dry in the living room because it was so foggy outside, nothing ever dried. I remember coming home with wet hair from walking in the fog in summer. Cold & windy too. Spring and fall were clear. But it was cold and rainy in the winter and windy and foggy in the summer. The Mission District and the east side of SF have a much nicer climate, but the west side is very gray. Well, even if it's gray, Pittsburgh certainly is warmer in the summer!

Is it legal to stock up across state lines? I'd go nuts paying inflated prices after being used to "2 buck Chuck" and $5.99 Barefoot Bubbly from Trader Joe's!

Sunset has fog -- Pittsburgh's cloudy and gray. (But I happen to LIKE cloudy and gray!)

No -- it's not legal to bring back booze. But they don't have checkpoints at state lines. If you brought back and started selling in your neighborhood, you would get into a whopping heap of trouble, but if you went over state lines and bought a lot for personal use, how would they know?

Nanny and Pappy lived in Maryland, and every month we'd go to visit them. At Christmas, we'd have a big party -- so in November, Daddy would take stock of the bar, list what we needed, and buy it in Maryland. (Ah -- I remember the year of the Harvey Wallbanger! Those liqueur Galliano bottles! All the parents were schnockered Christmas Eve! I would have loved to have gone to Midnight Mass to see the merriment!) In the interest of disclosure, since on the way home we also visited Daddy's relatives in Hyndman -- we weren't taking main roads into PA.

[beachlover1]

Originally Posted by orrmobl

As a Philly native, I hate the 'burgh. The highways are convoluted. Worst dating city in America. Even the educated locals are backwards hicks. Nothing like being landlocked in a gray sea of despair. Pittsburgh may be great on paper but if you've lived anywhere remotely cosmopolitan, chances are you won't like it.

I completely agree with you orrmobl. You hit the nail right on the head! And to whom it may concern, it's not about being negative, i'm just being honest!

[Katarina Witt]

The weather situation has been discussed on some other threads. Anyone interested in Pittsburgh weather could so a search.

[By~Tor]

Someone I know had mentioned that, next to Seattle, Pittsburgh gets more rain than any other Metropolitan area in the country.

Does anyone have any back up for that statement or proof to the contrary?


Just curious.....

[BrianTH]

Originally Posted by By~Tor

Someone I know had mentioned that, next to Seattle, Pittsburgh gets more rain than any other Metropolitan area in the country.

Does anyone have any back up for that statement or proof to the contrary?

This sort of thing usually depends on your definitions. First, Hawaii and Alaska get a lot of rain, but I think people are usually thinking of the continental US. Even so, I believe that if you look at average annual rainfall, the top cities in the continental US are all down around the Gulf of Mexico. However, you get a different list if you look at rainy days as opposed to total rainfall, and that is how the Pacific Northwest and Western PA can move up the list (the Gulf Coast cities get dumped on, but only for part of the year).

Another issue is how small a metro area you want to talk about. I believe there are smaller places in New England, Upstate New York, parts of Michigan, and so on which have a lot of rainy days. But cities like Pittsburgh and Seattle move up if you restrict the list to major metros.