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Old 02-25-2018, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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AMEN!!
The idea that you can learn a profession by "googling" is interesting. there are damn few people I would hire like that, lol I had my knee replace and I guarantee you my surgeon did NOT learn joint replacement on youtube.
now I'm not an on line type of student, tried it for 3 classes, failed them miserably but my style of learning i not conducive to that set up.

I'm also a Pitt grad, and by no means feel any of my classes were crap but that's me.

my niece is a freshman biology student at Pitt, she's excelling and developing.
I don’t think you’re going to find anyone that believes anyone is going to become a surgeon through online classes.
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Old 02-25-2018, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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You could probably become a teacher taking classes on line. Or would the computer be the teacher? Hey, we don't need anymore teachers! gg will love that.
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Old 02-25-2018, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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You could probably become a teacher taking classes on line. Or would the computer be the teacher? Hey, we don't need anymore teachers! gg will love that.
There’s a lot of professions where the classes could be taken online, and becoming a teacher is one of them, however, I can eventually see the computer becoming the teacher.
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Old 02-25-2018, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Or would the computer be the teacher? Hey, we don't need anymore teachers!
The computer can't hold a gun and keep the kids safe.
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Old 02-25-2018, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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And my 60 year old 2nd grade teacher could? All 90 lbs of her?
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Old 02-25-2018, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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And my 60 year old 2nd grade teacher could? All 90 lbs of her?
Maybe mount the gun on the desk?
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Old 02-26-2018, 06:21 AM
 
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Yes, that's true -- but labs in general usually rely on federal funding for much of their work, or they did. Everyone is increasingly anxious about what will happen to resources like the NSF and what the implications are of private funding coming to dominate how universities are expected to function. Pitt also tells the story of Salk's success in the 1950s and early 1960s as part of the reason why PA decided to invest in the university in the first place, but I admit I would be curious to know more about the whole story.

Anyway: at the end of the day it's just really awful reading sneering comments about professors who don't spend enough time teaching, when I am aware of how much work is expected at a place like Pitt, and how hard we all work to do everything we can for students at all levels. And as I wrote this morning, it's especially awful reading it today after spending a Saturday with 30 undergraduates -- not that I mind the work I did with them, but some of the comments on here really sting, and I am exhausted right now.
it is unfortunate that you have to endure the comments but there are those of us out there that appreciate what you do and are extremely thankful for it. i would hope that this is the majority. i am sure this is the case on the individual level as well with your students. while i recognize that college costs are becoming a problem for some people (as they were with me as a middle income student that didn't receive much aid), it is more on the instituational and not the individual level in which high costs can be blamed. i do recognize that the education that i received was second to none and the professors acted out the goodness of their hearts (as most didn't receive high salaries but i recognize this isn't the case for some professors at big schools).
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Old 02-26-2018, 07:48 AM
 
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I had this guy at Tech.

My Turn, by Kurt Wiesenfeld

Sort of gives an idea of life as a prof and their general attitude about undergrads at Tech.
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Old 02-26-2018, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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I had this guy at Tech.

My Turn, by Kurt Wiesenfeld

Sort of gives an idea of life as a prof and their general attitude about undergrads at Tech.
Good article. I can only imagine how bad it is now 22 years later.
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Old 02-27-2018, 02:58 AM
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Hell of a thread to read while on my way to spend six hours on a Saturday teaching undergraduates in a bonus workshop, doing unpaid overtime labor simply because I believe in Pitt and want to give my students the best education possible.
This was an important post for me. I do realize that you work and care. I would imagine your are worth every penny and want to teach. I do believe many teachers really want to do a good job. Your post has bothered me for a few days as I didn't mean to upset anyone. I feel students of today are NOT getting their money's worth. That is all. It has nothing to do with you, it has to do with administrators. Administrators are similar to how hospitals run. A bunch of MBA garbage running around to make more money for themselves and not really creating anything.

Anyway, I am sure you a a good one. Keep up the good work and forget about my anger when it comes to cost and a damn piece of paper.
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