East Pittsburgh police shoot teen in back (Oakmont, Fox Chapel: versus, suburbs)

[Knepper3]

Originally Posted by erieguy

I don’t care what color ones skin is or what race they are. Wrong is wrong. If one is going to murder someone, especially using a gun, be prepared to accept your consequences. Then you’re going to run afterwards? Take responsibility for what you did, stop when the cop tells you to stop, and accept the consequences for your actions.

That's the point, wrong is wrong means nothing. My point is if someone does not like the verdict then look to make changes in policy. I am not saying I disagree with it but focus on what can be defined and changed. To say an officer is racist for following the rules set for him makes no sense, fight those rules then.

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by Knepper3

That's the point, wrong is wrong means nothing. My point is if someone does not like the verdict then look to make changes in policy. I am not saying I disagree with it but focus on what can be defined and changed. To say an officer is racist for following the rules set for him makes no sense, fight those rules then.

This is also how I see things. All that these constant protests are doing here in Pittsburgh (which had zero ties to this case, by the way, yet we city taxpayers continue to foot the bills) is making many of us even less sympathetic towards their cause. They should be busing themselves to Harrisburg and protesting right in front of the state capitol building. Blocking Grant Street does what, exactly? Yelling at people in restaurants in the East End does what, exactly? It's just pissing off Pittsburghers.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Knepper3

That's the point, wrong is wrong means nothing. My point is if someone does not like the verdict then look to make changes in policy. I am not saying I disagree with it but focus on what can be defined and changed. To say an officer is racist for following the rules set for him makes no sense, fight those rules then.

Calling him a racist is the easiest way to go, instead of admitting the criminals are/were flat out wrong. I’d wager most of the protesters in a case such as this couldn’t care less about the victim/s or potential victim/s. They just want the easy blame rather than admitting the criminals were wrong, and they won’t do a thing about criminals/future criminals doing the exact same thing. They’re just lying in wait to make the next accusation. They have little to no regards for the law/s.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

This is also how I see things. All that these constant protests are doing here in Pittsburgh (which had zero ties to this case, by the way, yet we city taxpayers continue to foot the bills) is making many of us even less sympathetic towards their cause. They should be busing themselves to Harrisburg and protesting right in front of the state capitol building. Blocking Grant Street does what, exactly? Yelling at people in restaurants in the East End does what, exactly? It's just pissing off Pittsburghers.

Or perhaps “police” their neighborhoods, kids, relatives, friends, etc..., so the next criminal thinking of doing a drive by thinks otherwise. Have they/are they doing this?

[Goinback2011]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Or perhaps “police” their neighborhoods, kids, relatives, friends, etc..., so the next criminal thinking of doing a drive by thinks otherwise. Have they/are they doing this?

You had PPS encouraging kids to "honor" a drive by shooter.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Goinback2011

You had PPS encouraging kids to "honor" a drive by shooter.

I didn’t, but sadly, that happened.

[WhiteOak2013]

Originally Posted by jea6321

https://www.abc27.com/news/state/onl...BSV60GzmEycBoc

interesting to hear from this juror. I have been trying to keep an open mind to the trial, and my instinct is to say that a cop should never shoot someone in the back that is fleeing. However, I don't have the full evidence that the jurors had.

I believe that Rosfeld testified that the 1st shot was not in the back...officer thought he had a gun in his hand as he began to raise it outstretched as he demonstrated in court. 3 shots in 1 sec as trained. Sounds like Antwon ran after 1st shot.

[SteelCityRising]

https://triblive.com/local/pittsburg...-complex-case/

^ Again, PA law, as it is currently written, permitted Ofc. Rosfeld to shoot Antwon Rose as he was evading capture during a felonious traffic stop. Ofc. Rosfeld had the authority to shoot Rose if he believed Rose possessed a weapon and/or posed a dangerous to himself or others nearby in the community if his capture had been evaded.

Would we be having all of these protests if Antwon Rose was Caucasian instead? Just curious. I still don't see why shooting someone who is presumably armed as they evade capture is so heinous in nature.

When are the protests happening in Harrisburg to enact legislative action? When are the protests happening in East Pittsburgh to hold Mayor Payne accountable for passing the buck on everything to Bill Peduto?

[WhiteOak2013]

Originally Posted by prnlvsxy

From the Jury foreman:

https://www.abc27.com/news/state/onl...BSV60GzmEycBoc

"This was not a complex case.' said Rawls. "Had Antwon Rose and the other passenger stayed in the car and listened to the Rosfeld's commands, a teenager would still be alive and Rosfeld would still be working as a police officer."

I’m so glad that Anthony Rawls Sr., the jury foreman, spoke out. He said that without sitting on the jury and hearing all of the facts he would feel the same as some of people protesting the verdict.

[gg]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

Would we be having all of these protests if Antwon Rose was Caucasian instead? Just curious. I still don't see why shooting someone who is presumably armed as they evade capture is so heinous in nature.

When are the protests happening in Harrisburg to enact legislative action? When are the protests happening in East Pittsburgh to hold Mayor Payne accountable for passing the buck on everything to Bill Peduto?

If the cop shot a white guy, no one would pay any attention to it at all. No way. I am 100% positive. People would just say, oh he was involved in a drive-by and was at the very least an accomplice to 1st degree murder. He fled from a cop that knew who they were with a blown out back window. Everyone would just say, he got what he deserved. EVERYONE knows this is true. It would make the news for a day and be done.

No one cares about the law. That is real work. Protesting isn't work, it is easy. Walk around with a few like minded people and shout for a while. Does nothing, means nothing.