More protests without permits shutting down streets. (Pittsburgh, Portland: buses, transportation)

[Agbor]

Ok I understand protests and the amendment right to protest and that civil disobedience was never designed to be convenient. HOWEVER I think people protest just to protest without and established plan and end-game. WHAT EXACTLY DO
THESE PROTESTS WANT TO ACCOMPLISH?

For example, in the sixties people protested, marched and sat-in, but they didn't do it just to do it..they sat down in the
churches and planned and strategize to accomplish a goal...(the bus boycott economically broke and unjust transportation
system)...

Protests are fine to draw attention to a cause, but what is the long-term goal do the protests want to accomplish and how are
they going about to do it? What is the PLAN? Do they plan to put economic pressure on police departments? or what?

[Goinback2011]

It looks to me like the money the protest groups were paying for police protection ran out.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Goinback2011

It looks to me like the money the protest groups were paying for police protection ran out.

Great news.

[Knepper3]

Originally Posted by Agbor

Ok I understand protests and the amendment right to protest and that civil disobedience was never designed to be convenient. HOWEVER I think people protest just to protest without and established plan and end-game. WHAT EXACTLY DO
THESE PROTESTS WANT TO ACCOMPLISH?

For example, in the sixties people protested, marched and sat-in, but they didn't do it just to do it..they sat down in the
churches and planned and strategize to accomplish a goal...(the bus boycott economically broke and unjust transportation
system)...

Protests are fine to draw attention to a cause, but what is the long-term goal do the protests want to accomplish and how are
they going about to do it? What is the PLAN? Do they plan to put economic pressure on police departments? or what?

Thank you, this is always my issue with many types of protests. I understand things need to be brought to light sometimes but I am pretty sure most people realize racism still exists and is an issue everywhere. Like Kneeling for the anthem, These are millionaires with a voice people listen to so to me kneeling is the easy (lazy) way out, go out and get involved and do something. Never cared much for Kaepernick (Not a good QB and really is out of work because of that not his views in my opinion) but I feel like aside from the kneeling thing he actually then went out and became involved, he took action.

[gg]

Originally Posted by Knepper3

...to me kneeling is the easy (lazy) way out, go out and get involved and do something.

Yeah, it does nothing other than upset the fans that are paying their salaries. It is lazy for sure.

[gladhands]

Originally Posted by Goinback2011

It looks to me like the money the protest groups were paying for police protection ran out.

This is why reasonable people have stopped posting on this board

[JoeP]

This is why reasonable people have stopped posting on this board

Bingo.

[Huckleberry3911948]

At what point does it stop being a protest and becomes mob rule
Do the down and out have more rights than those that need to get to work to feed their families

[gg]

Originally Posted by gladhands

This is why reasonable people have stopped posting on this board

Of all the boards I visit, I find this one to be the most diverse on all fronts. Lots of different opinions and really amazing dialog. Most forums are complete echo-chambers, but this one somehow manages to be very open and it is amazing it can stay that way. It is VERY rare.

I can see both sides. I don't know if either side will have any closure. Police have to do their job and it isn't an easy one. The kid that got shot was in a car that was in a drive-by shooting a few minutes earlier and he had a clip in his pocket, so it wasn't like he wasn't part of it all. He was. Sad he got shot, but if you are going to run with people carrying out drive-by shootings, your chances of being killed by a cop or by the streets are increase a million fold.

I hope someday the cops are more involved in communities and people start getting to know them better, but the hatred towards them in some parts of the city, probably just make it impossible at this time.

I don't think things will change in the next decade, much. Protests are easy to form with the Internet for the extremists.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948

At what point does it stop being a protest and becomes mob rule
Do the down and out have more rights than those that need to get to work to feed their families

They feel they do, and their entitlement runs extremely deep.