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Old 06-11-2019, 08:10 PM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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The complaint shouldn't be that the amount of money spent per pupil is less in some districts. Cause a lot of poorer districts spend plenty. And Pennsylvania as a whole spends more than most states per pupil.


I really think that the only way to turn around some districts is to go to lengthen the school day (and feed the kids breakfast and lunch and send them home with dinner) and have school go year round.
All the schools are probably pretty good. It all has to do with parents, not the actual school. PPS spends a TON on each kid and it doesn't matter one bit. No parenting, no learning. It all has to do with home life and hard work parenting.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Fox Chapel
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If schools were merged and my children negatively impacted, which would most likely be the case if merging a very good system with a failing one, I would definitely move. One of the primary factors for picking a location to raise a family is quality of education. I'm stating the obvious. And, I'm not going to scarifice my children's potential by staying in the district. Some will argue that their potential wouldn't be sacrificed and in fact, could possibly be bettered because of a more socioeconomically diverse environment. I get it but overall and in general, I'm not one of them and if I'm forced to be, I will move.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:09 AM
 
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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One of the primary factors for picking a location to raise a family is quality of education.
This is exactly why Pennsylvania needs mandatory open enrollment and where someone lives should not limit their educational opportunities.
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Old 06-12-2019, 12:19 PM
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If schools were merged and my children negatively impacted, which would most likely be the case if merging a very good system with a failing one, I would definitely move. One of the primary factors for picking a location to raise a family is quality of education. I'm stating the obvious. And, I'm not going to scarifice my children's potential by staying in the district. Some will argue that their potential wouldn't be sacrificed and in fact, could possibly be bettered because of a more socioeconomically diverse environment. I get it but overall and in general, I'm not one of them and if I'm forced to be, I will move.
This sums it up well. I would also move to as far away as I had to.
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Old 06-12-2019, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Fox Chapel
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This is exactly why Pennsylvania needs mandatory open enrollment and where someone lives should not limit their educational opportunities.
Yes, that's a great idea, let's take away people's freedom and choices. That always works out really well doesn't it.
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Old 06-12-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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Yes, that's a great idea, let's take away people's freedom and choices. That always works out really well doesn't it.
Trackstar is proposing giving EVERYONE freedom and choices,not just those with money.
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Old 06-12-2019, 02:04 PM
 
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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Yes, that's a great idea, let's take away people's freedom and choices. That always works out really well doesn't it.

It is working in other states and I don't see how open enrollment takes away people's freedom and choices.
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Old 06-12-2019, 02:06 PM
 
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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Trackstar is proposing giving EVERYONE freedom and choices,not just those with money.
Exactly
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Old 06-12-2019, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Fox Chapel
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Trackstar is proposing giving EVERYONE freedom and choices,not just those with money.
"Mandatory" in effect, takes away my freedom. What gives you the right to decide what level of education my children get? My children are now in a good school district. What you propose will lower the value of their education, no matter how you try to spin it. In effect, what you want to do is take that away from them.
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Old 06-12-2019, 04:31 PM
 
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"Mandatory" in effect, takes away my freedom. What gives you the right to decide what level of education my children get? My children are now in a good school district. What you propose will lower the value of their education, no matter how you try to spin it. In effect, what you want to do is take that away from them.
I’m going to try to explain it simply enough that even you can grasp it. The “mandatory” is for governments, not individuals. He is proposing that a higher government (state or federal) mandate that lower governments allow families to choose which schools their children can attend. No one is lowering the value of any child’s education. One would only think that unless they think the value lies in exclusivity.
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