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Old 07-15-2019, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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You've received a plethora of excellent advice thus far.

My recommendations would be:

Fox Chapel Area School District (Fox Chapel Borough, Aspinwall Borough, Sharpsburg Borough, Blawnox Borough, Indiana Township, O'Hara Township)
Lower East End of the City of Pittsburgh (within Colfax, Minadeo, or Greenfield---in that order ===> Allderdice public school feeder pattern) Ideal neighborhoods would be Squirrel Hill, Greenfield, Point Breeze, Regent Square (city limits portion only), or Shadyside.
Shaler Area School District (Millvale Borough, Etna Borough, Reserve Township, Shaler Township)

Avoid Wilkinsburg, Penn Hills, and Woodland Hills if you want to go the public school route. Riverview (Oakmont/Verona) is solid, but I wouldn't want to commute along Allegheny River Boulevard at rush-hour daily to and from East Liberty. As others have said Plum is too far out, and Gateway (Monroeville) would likely also be too far given how bad traffic is between Monroeville and the East End.
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Old 07-15-2019, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Weirton, W. Va.
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Spoken like someone who has never driven it.

Greentree is 17 minutes in rush hour to East Libery?..not even close you won't even be in the tunnel yet.

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My friend, 11.7 miles is not a far commute. As I said to the poster he is going to have to trade commute time for a decent public school district. In most other cities a commute with that mileage at heavy rush hour is 20-25 minutes tops. You can be less than 10 miles from east liberty and have a 30 to 40 minute commute. The road access in and out of east liberty is poor. I know yinz guys love the east end, but it has very poor accessibility compared to other parts of the city.

Pittsburgh is a small city too. We aren’t talking about millions or hundreds of thousands of people in the roadways.

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I wouldn't put Gateway SD (Monroeville+Pitcairn) in the same boat as Penn Hills, Woodland Hills (which have big issues) and Wilkinsburg (which is a dumpster fire). Gateway is an average school district, not an awful one. It is probably slipping a bit in the rankings in recent years though, as Pitcairn (like a lot of the Turtle Creek Valley towns) is becoming a bit of a dumping ground for the poor black population which formerly lived in the East End of Pittsburgh. The long-standing middle-class black population in Monroeville is among the highest-performing in the county however, last time I checked the PSSA scores. It does fail the 30-minute commute thing though during rush hour.

I'd actually put Riverview SD (Oakmont+Verona) on roughly the same level as Gateway. Oakmont is a nice town, and even in rush hour, it's probably within the commuting threshold the OP is looking for. Verona is experiencing an influx of black residents of Penn Hills attempt to move into a better school district, and I wonder if this will trigger white flight out of the district, even if it doesn't out of Oakmont itself.

Plum is probably the most well regarded school district east of the city within Allegheny County (and probably not coincidentally also the whitest) but it fails the 30-minute commute test.
So how is East Allegheny school district?
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Old 07-15-2019, 08:55 AM
 
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Are you still living in 1980? Seriously, no one cares about these things in first ring suburbs. Sure you go way out it gets more monotone in style and if you are in the city it is super monotone as well. In the city it is a bunch of like minds pretending they are diverse. The city isn't diverse at all. A bunch of ultra left wing whining people all trying to show how deprived they are as they pull out their $1,000 smartphone. The city is like a choir of like minds all complaining at once about how sorry they are the US is the most powerful country in the world and how we all live like kings these days. I'll take the first ring suburbs where there is real diversity and much more acceptance of different views and styles on a more international level. Much more welcoming in my area than the city could ever dream of being. I laugh when I see the "love not hate" signs in the city as if it is true. Hardly. If you support Trump you would be hated. If you are pro life you would be disliked. If you feel marriage should be a man and a woman you would be hated. This isn't "love not hate", it is intolerance to other's views. Sure it is love not hate so long as you think like me. That is what the sign should read. It was the city that used the memorial service at the Tree of Life to protest and show hatred for Trump and anyone that supports him, so any Trump supporter would be unwelcome to a memorial service!! Love? ha, ha, ha Hardly. I want to run around putting an * on each sign and a footnote, "so long as you think like us". It would make the sign real in the city.

Anyway, there are all kinds of people living in my area. Lots of people from different countries that thing all these divisions in the US are silly. Americans are Americans according to the worldly people. Cliques are what these divisions are all about. Cliques because of your skin tone. Cliques because you don't identify with a gender. Cliques because you are gay or whatever. Everyone born here is still an American. Doesn't matter.
You're entitled to your ill-informed opinions, but I'd rather not subject my children that comes with the psychological trauma inflicted on children of color raised in racist environments.
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Old 07-15-2019, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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You've received a plethora of excellent advice thus far.

My recommendations would be:

Fox Chapel Area School District (Fox Chapel Borough, Aspinwall Borough, Sharpsburg Borough, Blawnox Borough, Indiana Township, O'Hara Township)
Lower East End of the City of Pittsburgh (within Colfax, Minadeo, or Greenfield---in that order ===> Allderdice public school feeder pattern) Ideal neighborhoods would be Squirrel Hill, Greenfield, Point Breeze, Regent Square (city limits portion only), or Shadyside.
Shaler Area School District (Millvale Borough, Etna Borough, Reserve Township, Shaler Township)

Avoid Wilkinsburg, Penn Hills, and Woodland Hills if you want to go the public school route. Riverview (Oakmont/Verona) is solid, but I wouldn't want to commute along Allegheny River Boulevard at rush-hour daily to and from East Liberty. As others have said Plum is too far out, and Gateway (Monroeville) would likely also be too far given how bad traffic is between Monroeville and the East End.
Thank you for condensing this for me! There's a lot of information and advice in this thread. Way more than I could have hoped for. I appreciate everybody who has weighed in. Right now I'm zeroing in on the Fox Chapel School District. But I'll also keep Squirrel Hill and the others mentioned in mind. We should hear the word this week on whether the move is happening, so I feel pretty prepared should all go as planned.
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Old 07-15-2019, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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My friend, 11.7 miles is not a far commute. As I said to the poster he is going to have to trade commute time for a decent public school district. In most other cities a commute with that mileage at heavy rush hour is 20-25 minutes tops.
Have you ever sat in Fort Pitt Bridge or Liberty Tunnel traffic during rush hour? (I'm guessing no.) It's not the mileage that's the issue, it's the hundreds of other cars funnelling into a narrow space at the same time. Unless there is a rift in the space-time continuum that you're keeping from us, a 20-minute rush hour commute from Scott or Green Tree to East Liberty is impossible.

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Old 07-15-2019, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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So how is East Allegheny school district?
It ranks pretty poorly - near the bottom statewide and in the region. This really isn't surprising considering the economic background of the district. I mean, it contains three poor working-class boroughs (Wilmerding, Wall, and East Pittsburgh) and the more suburban North Versailles. Even the latter isn't really a rich area, and actually has a large, heavily black/poor housing complex along the Mon River.
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Old 07-15-2019, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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You're entitled to your ill-informed opinions, but I'd rather not subject my children that comes with the psychological trauma inflicted on children of color raised in racist environments.
Where are these racist environments?
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:01 AM
 
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Where are these racist environments?
I am curious about this also
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Yall really shouldn't be questioning a black man on whether racism really exists in the area. I'm sure he gets lots of reactions from people we do not.

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Old 07-15-2019, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Yall really shouldn't be questioning a black man on whether racism really exists in the area. I'm sure gets lots of reactions from people we do not.
^ This. I'm white and have overheard some overt racist remarks since moving here. Racism does still exist here, believe it or not.
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