09-23-2019, 12:37 PM
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We will see on Mason. I mean I don't think he will be the next Ben but maybe he develops into a solid starter. I will say I think he is by far the best replacement to Ben we have tried so far, maybe not the answer but much better than others.
09-23-2019, 12:43 PM
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Agreed
09-23-2019, 06:10 PM
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We will see on Mason. I mean I don't think he will be the next Ben but maybe he develops into a solid starter. I will say I think he is by far the best replacement to Ben we have tried so far, maybe not the answer but much better than others.
That’s a pretty good assessment and I agree.
This team stinks otherwise from top to bottom. The O Line is the biggest disappointment of them all. James Conner was a feel good story and an inspiration but he stinks at football. JuJu ain’t a number 1 receiver yet either. He is half the talent of AB right now. Cam Heyward and bud Dupree are huge disappointments. Overall a defense that is just not very good.
I like Fitzpatrick, but giving up a first rounder for him could end up being a disaster especially if the Steelers are a bottom 10 or bottom 5 first round pick in 2020. I like Fitzpatrick but he wouldn’t be worth a top 5 or 10 first round pick if the Steelers finish that low. Right now it’s looking possible they could finish in the bottom 10 maybe lower.
09-23-2019, 06:11 PM
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Oh and Tomlin is way past his expiration date. Very sloppy every week.
I have been saying this for the past several years, I really don't think the Rooney's care. Cowher had a number of so-so years himself and in their minds perhaps it's part of doing business maybe?
Although in fairness, Cowher made the playoffs ten times in fifteen seasons, Tomlin is eight in twelve seasons before this one per Wikipedia.
09-23-2019, 06:19 PM
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I have been saying this for the past several years, I really don't think the Rooney's care. Cowher had a number of so-so years himself and in their minds perhaps it's part of doing business maybe?
Cowher was a much better coach than tomlin. I didn’t care for his blow hard personality but he didn’t have a really good QB till he drafted Ben. He made the playoffs with average QBs like Mike Tomczak, Kordell Stewart, Tommy Maddox, and super bowl with average Neil O’Donnell and I believe Kent Graham. Ben was the best QB he had and it led to a Super Bowl win. His players also respected him.
Tomlin has had Ben his whole coaching career. Cowher drafted Ben and that is what carried Tomlins coaching career. Tomlins Super Bowl win was with Cowher’s team. Oh and Troy Polamalu was a cowher draft pick. Who really stands out as a great Tomlin draft pick that they won with? You know what I mean.
Tomlin can’t coach without Ben. Cowher coached for years and made playoffs with qbs of a mason rudolph caliber taking snaps behind center. I would argue that cowher held onto Kordell too long as a QB
09-23-2019, 10:23 PM
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Tomlins Super Bowl win was with Cowher’s team.
I always hear people saying this, but I have never understood it. They were Colbert's players not just Cowher's. And if simply inheriting a team was good enough to win super bowls then a ton of teams like the eagles should have a couple. Cowher lost many AFC title games, a super bowl, and couldn't even win with his own players (went 8-8 after winning the super bowl). Teams are just different year to year.
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I always hear people saying this, but I have never understood it. They were Colbert's players not just Cowher's. And if simply inheriting a team was good enough to win super bowls then a ton of teams like the eagles should have a couple. Cowher lost many AFC title games, a super bowl, and couldn't even win with his own players (went 8-8 after winning the super bowl). Teams are just different year to year.
But he's white.
09-24-2019, 05:48 AM
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But he's white.
And?
09-24-2019, 08:44 AM
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I always hear people saying this, but I have never understood it. They were Colbert's players not just Cowher's. And if simply inheriting a team was good enough to win super bowls then a ton of teams like the eagles should have a couple. Cowher lost many AFC title games, a super bowl, and couldn't even win with his own players (went 8-8 after winning the super bowl). Teams are just different year to year.
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But he's white.
His skin color has nothing to do with it. Why would you even make a statement like that? I like Tomlin much better as a person than Cowher. I just think Cowher was the more disciplined and better coach.
Cowher lost many AFC champ games with the likes of Neil ODonnell and Kordell Stewart at QB. Of his 15 years coaching only 3 of them were with a franchise QB. He lost Super Bowl 30 with an inferior QB and running game. Had his average QB not known for turnovers , threw one less interception the Steelers could’ve pulled an upset. It is fair to say he got the most out of average talent at the QB position. Not to mention recycling of mike tomczak and tommy Maddox to give this team a playoff game and winning record for this crap football town fan base where most folks know nothing about the game.
Tomlin was handed a franchise QB in the prime of his career. He won the Super Bowl with a team that was mostly Cowher era players. Ben won that game himself and cemented himself as a legend. Tomlin has had one QB the whole time. A franchise player and sure hall of gamer. Yet only 1 Super Bowl win, Super Bowl loss and constant under achieving in the playoffs since. The Stiller’s should’ve had at least 1 maybe two more trips to the big dance with Ben. Tomlin was out coached many times. Arguably the best regular season coach ever, but worst playoff coach ever.
09-24-2019, 09:00 AM
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And in my opinion, Tomlin should’ve been let go after the 2016 conference championship loss. That was his 5th playoff loss including the Super Bowl 45 loss to Green Bay. 5 playoff losses with a hall of fame qb. Then they wheels began to fall off the wagon losing control, the rise of the toxic twins etc. Tomlin is 3 years past his expiration date.
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Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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