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Old 02-22-2020, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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There are a couple bus routes between Beaver County and Pittsburgh.

https://bcta.com/schedules/
OK. That's changed since I last checked.
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Old 02-22-2020, 09:20 PM
 
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Kat is back! what was up, you took a sabbatical or something
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Old 02-22-2020, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh (via Chicago, via Pittsburgh)
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Agree with many of your assessments regarding Pittsburgh’s relatively good transit compared to many other cities it’s size. It’s just hard to take this particular study seriously when you have cities like Chicago “behind” Pittsburgh on the list when you can take the Metra commuter rail in Chicago from downtown to Kenosha, WI or Aurora, IL 40 miles away (amongst many other far out areas). Not to mention the very robust heavy rail and bus system in the city itself. Same goes to Boston and Philly to an extent. Again not saying Pittsburgh has terrible transit. It’s really not too bad within the city as far as the bus system goes.
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Old 02-22-2020, 10:19 PM
 
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Kat is back! what was up, you took a sabbatical or something
Something like that!
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Old 02-22-2020, 10:44 PM
 
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Agree with many of your assessments regarding Pittsburgh’s relatively good transit compared to many other cities it’s size. It’s just hard to take this particular study seriously when you have cities like Chicago “behind” Pittsburgh on the list when you can take the Metra commuter rail in Chicago from downtown to Kenosha, WI or Aurora, IL 40 miles away (amongst many other far out areas). Not to mention the very robust heavy rail and bus system in the city itself. Same goes to Boston and Philly to an extent. Again not saying Pittsburgh has terrible transit. It’s really not too bad within the city as far as the bus system goes.
Downtown Denver to Evergreen in the foothills- 40 mi.
DT Denver to Eldora ski area- 50 mi. (Requires a transfer in Boulder)
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh (via Chicago, via Pittsburgh)
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Downtown Denver to Evergreen in the foothills- 40 mi.
DT Denver to Eldora ski area- 50 mi. (Requires a transfer in Boulder)
The point is, Pittsburgh (and Denver) doesn't compare to Chicago (or Boston or Philly) in terms of "car dependency". Those larger cities simply offer more robust transit options in much more of the metro area, are are equally if not far more walkable over larger geographic areas. Pittsburgh can be very transit friendly and you can live car free very easily in some smaller geographical areas in comparison

This is just the commuter rail system in Chicago, not including buses, the CTA train system, or PACE

https://metrarail.com/node/6823

Here's the CTA with trains and buses.

https://www.transitchicago.com/maps/system/

Now, Denver would be a good comparison to Pittsburgh in "car dependency". Pittsburgh in the city itself is quite walkable and I would say has more robust transit than Denver. I do know Denver has better rail than Pittsburgh, but it would be a tight call.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:11 AM
 
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Downtown Denver to Evergreen in the foothills- 40 mi.
DT Denver to Eldora ski area- 50 mi. (Requires a transfer in Boulder)

accessibility has a lot to do with long range planning. colorado was growing in population for decades, while ours declined. certainly with the advantage of modern methods, and more federal money to do so, CO's biggest city had planned, approved, and installed a transit system to boast about.

as concluded numerous times in various threads, there has to be an 'apples to apples' comparison. pgh vs. cleve, for example.
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Old 02-23-2020, 05:37 PM
 
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accessibility has a lot to do with long range planning. colorado was growing in population for decades, while ours declined. certainly with the advantage of modern methods, and more federal money to do so, CO's biggest city had planned, approved, and installed a transit system to boast about.

as concluded numerous times in various threads, there has to be an 'apples to apples' comparison. pgh vs. cleve, for example.
I was responding to eschaton who said:

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The cities with demonstrably better/more used transit systems are NYC, Boston, Philly, DC, Chicago, San Francisco, and Seattle. Baltimore is on around our level. Everywhere else transit is worse.
The Port Authority covers 500 square miles, 26 miles of light rail. RTD Denver covers 2342 square miles, 98.5 miles of light rail.

https://www.portauthority.org/services/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Region...ation_District
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTD_Bus_%26_Rail

And he's saying Denver's system is worse.
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