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Old 05-13-2020, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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For Pete's sake dudes - you guys complained that Wolf wasn't "opening up" SWPA. He decides to open up all of it but one county, and you're now upset about that?

I can understand why there would be a desire to make a "special exception" for Beaver County, considering as has been noted a single nursing home is basically ground zero for COVID-19 in the county, and it might be able to be covered with more localized controls. The problem is if you give a special exception to one county which did not meet the stated benchmarks, others will start to expect it as well, which then will lead to all sorts of lobbying and horse trading.

A week or two of difference - which is the most likely outcome - won't matter that much for Beaver County.
How many counties in PA have a similar circumstance to Beaver that they would be able to lobby and horsetrade?

I recall Allegheny County also having a spike in cases due to a nursing home.
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Old 05-14-2020, 05:33 AM
 
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Bingo indeed. 90% Dems loving that free stuff and hoping the economy tanks because that big meanie Trump.
I hate to break anyone`s little snot bubble here but the bulk of the "free stuff" goes to the GOP`s base.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...curity/516861/
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Old 05-14-2020, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I hate to break anyone`s little snot bubble here but the bulk of the "free stuff" goes to the GOP`s base.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...curity/516861/
Except I’m talking about staying home and collecting checks due to the virus, while the economy crashes, rather than get back to work. Good strawman example, however.
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Old 05-14-2020, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Lol
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Old 05-14-2020, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Etna, PA
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For Pete's sake dudes - you guys complained that Wolf wasn't "opening up" SWPA. He decides to open up all of it but one county, and you're now upset about that?

I can understand why there would be a desire to make a "special exception" for Beaver County, considering as has been noted a single nursing home is basically ground zero for COVID-19 in the county, and it might be able to be covered with more localized controls. The problem is if you give a special exception to one county which did not meet the stated benchmarks, others will start to expect it as well, which then will lead to all sorts of lobbying and horse trading.

A week or two of difference - which is the most likely outcome - won't matter that much for Beaver County.
Well, everything else has been willy-nilly fly-by-night. The Governor is constantly moving the goalposts and obfuscating the people of this Commonwealth. Allegheny met the criteria and we weren't in the first round of openings - so obviously the 'thresholds' aren't set in stone. Beaver also borders Ohio - people are just going to go there to enjoy liberty and a re-opened economy.

Regarding the nursing home.. that was a facility thats under the oversight of PaDOH. They dropped the ball. PaDOH also mandated nursing homes admit COVID patients. We're now two months into this crisis, and I believe it was only last week that the Governor sent the National Guard in to help this facility.

Pennsylvania had a plan to help nursing homes, but it was never implemented for some reason: https://www.spotlightpa.org/news/202...-strike-teams/

And meanwhile the Secretary of Health moved their mother out of a care home and into a hotel..

The Wolf administration has demonstrated nothing but arrogance and incompetence throughout this entire situation. The administrations decisions exacerbated the problems with the nursing homes, then no help was given to them as the Wolf administration continued its fly-by-night approach, then the economy and liberty of an entire County continues to be suffocated under the heel of Tom Wolf as a result of a situation that the state government had a negligent role in helping to create. So of course Beaver County is going to give Harrisburg the middle finger.

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Yes. The Kane Regional Nursing Center in Glen Hazel (city neighborhood) had a spike in cases, but it was nowhere near the "hundreds" of positive cases with approaching 100 deaths at Brighton Rehab in Beaver County.

I actually think there is another cluster at the Allegheny County Jail (ACJ). I work in a building that's connected to the jail, so we keep ourselves abreast of what's happening over there. >50% of the inmates that HAVE been tested have tested positive. Despite this the oversight board of the ACJ recently vetoed mass testing. My theory is that they know it would have shown a huge number of cases there, and then Allegheny County at-large would be in the same pickle as Beaver County with staying in the red phase because of ONE cluster.
More likely it would bring more attention to medical care within the jail, which has been a long-standing problem. There have already been two protests driving around the courthouse within the last few weeks demanding the release of more inmates from the jail due to covid.
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