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Old 07-22-2020, 07:34 AM
 
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There's a reason why the middle of this country is empty.

No one wants to live there unless they were born there.

no. there are nice communities and cities in the interior. it seems 'no one' wants to live there because it is expansive and covers a humongous area.

on a lot of topics, you seem to generalize to fit a world view that is comforting to you.
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Old 07-22-2020, 07:35 AM
 
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What about providing a nice home for working people?
Not into brokering mortgages.

The difference between a renter and a homeowner is a down payment. It is in the interest of the landlord to charge enough that their customer base can't save up a down payment.

I can tell you that my mortgage for a house in south hills is half what I was paying to rent a similar house, from a landlord I had to take to court.
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Old 07-22-2020, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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no. there are nice communities and cities in the interior. it seems 'no one' wants to live there because it is expansive and covers a humongous area.

on a lot of topics, you seem to generalize to fit a world view that is comforting to you.
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Old 07-22-2020, 07:53 AM
 
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no. there are nice communities and cities in the interior. it seems 'no one' wants to live there because it is expansive and covers a humongous area.

on a lot of topics, you seem to generalize to fit a world view that is comforting to you.
Having been all over the United States, I'll say no. Sorry.

There's a reason 2/3rds of the US lives on the coasts and borders.

There's a reason the middle of the country is empty.

The empty parts of the country have a lot of anger for the prosperous, populated areas, hence the mess we're in right now.
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Old 07-22-2020, 07:57 AM
 
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The empty parts of the country have a lot of anger for the prosperous, populated areas, hence the mess we're in right now.

gee...from the person who hates (my word) Mt. Lebanon and suburbs in general, believes "the core of conservatism" is anti-human (my summary), and makes far-reaching conclusions that are, well, far-fetched (most people do that, anymore).
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Old 07-22-2020, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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gee...from the person who hates (my word) Mt. Lebanon and suburbs in general, believes "the core of conservatism" is anti-human (my summary), and makes far-reaching conclusions that are, well, far-fetched (most people do that, anymore).
Lol. I guarantee ML doesn’t miss anyone with those ideas, and certainly helps to keep places like that desirable.
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Old 07-22-2020, 08:00 AM
 
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gee...from the person who hates (my word) Mt. Lebanon and suburbs in general, believes "the core of conservatism" is anti-human (my summary), and makes far-reaching conclusions that are, well, far-fetched (most people do that, anymore).
I poke fun at places like Mt. Lebanon because they can't take a joke at their expense, but at the end of the day I don't actually have a personal problem with it or the suburbs in general beyond tax-related stuff.

The US is full of places like rural PA that have a self-selecting population of bitter, angry people who are upset that the world passed them by, and they expect continued prosperity without having to do anything to earn it. Their children grow up, go to college, and leave their rural areas forever for better economic opportunities and that only embitters them further.

We're at a point in US history where they've been radicalized on spite for the more prosperous, more diverse portions of the country and are willing to burn everything down rather than actually work for a better future for themselves. It's sad.
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Old 07-22-2020, 08:04 AM
 
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Not into brokering mortgages.

The difference between a renter and a homeowner is a down payment. It is in the interest of the landlord to charge enough that their customer base can't save up a down payment.

I can tell you that my mortgage for a house in south hills is half what I was paying to rent a similar house, from a landlord I had to take to court.

But some people don't want to buy a house and desire the flexibility of a rental.
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Old 07-22-2020, 08:08 AM
 
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Anecdotal, but I'd suspect that a survey of renters would find that most of them in their late twenties and older would prefer to own a home. Owning a home is simply not an option for young people in areas that aren't completely miserable anymore.

I can tell you that the previous owner of my house paid, in 1990, less than half what I paid for it in adjusted dollars.

When I was young and had a terrible job making $8 an hour, I rented a studio apartment for $325 a month. That same exact apartment is now $650 a month and the people who might rent it aren't making more today than they were in 2006.

Housing in this country is a mess.
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Old 07-22-2020, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Anecdotal, but I'd suspect that a survey of renters would find that most of them in their late twenties and older would prefer to own a home. Owning a home is simply not an option for young people in areas that aren't completely miserable anymore.

I can tell you that the previous owner of my house paid, in 1990, less than half what I paid for it in adjusted dollars.

When I was young and had a terrible job making $8 an hour, I rented a studio apartment for $325 a month. That same exact apartment is now $650 a month and the people who might rent it aren't making more today than they were in 2006.

Housing in this country is a mess.
Big difference in desirable areas and undesirable areas as far as affording a home and/or being miserable.

Depends where you’re at and what your standards of living are. Housing market is extremely strong, especially in desirable areas.
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