02-24-2021, 11:22 AM
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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Although, apparently, contract details have yet to be finalized , Rooney, as usual was unwilling and/or unable to make the hard decisions for the team to move forward.
Yet another year of Tomlin's arrogance, egomania, and unwillingness to change, since he is Coach for Life.
Also, more inevitable Roethlisberger drama, as his once prodigious physical skills continue to decline.
This outfit reminds me of the French Ancien Regime in many ways.
I have been a Tomlin supporter for years, but after the latest playoff debacle no more. Also, it is looking more and more like Ben and the Steeler's won in spite of Tomlin and not because of him. The Brown's playoff game was a failure on all levels, but to me the biggest failure was coaching and the Steeler's top 3 rated defense couldn't stop the Browns at all throughout the game. Tomlin has always been a defensive minded coach and the Steeler's defenses have been terrible in the playoffs for 10+ years now. In fact, the Steeler's had legitimate Super Bowl chances in 2016-17 with even a mediocre performances by the defense, but we all know how that turned out. This is particularly frustrating as the Tampa Bay Defense, who was not even rated in the top 5, took over the Super Bowl and completely shutdown one of the most prolific offenses in NFL history. Of course Ben's play and the turnovers were a major contributing factor in the Brown's game, but it really came down to coaching and the team with their head coach coaching from the basement came to play and the home team looked terrible once again. Regardless of how it ends I'm glad to see Ben going out on his own terms and not being forced out like Troy Polamalu or Terry Bradshaw, both of whom had serious ill will toward the Steeler's for some time after their retirements.
02-24-2021, 11:22 AM
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Yeah Art II is a clown. But hey this is what they want. Leave the stale head coach in there for life and A farewell tour for a QB that should’ve been gone in 2018 with a dead arm and no chance for the Super Bowl. But hey it’s what the fans want. Another season of medicority, mediocre draft position leads to endless mediocrity. I just don’t see the point in Bringing Ben back whether they owe him money or not. It’s time to move on and pass the torch to someone else
Actually, many fans want Ben gone...and you insist he’s terrible, so it’s the perfect recipe for the #1 draft pick....and you won’t have to wait 14 weeks to criticize him after a loss.
02-24-2021, 11:48 AM
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Actually, many fans want Ben gone. ..and you insist he’s terrible, so it’s the perfect recipe for the #1 draft pick....and you won’t have to wait 14 weeks to criticize him after a loss.
why is that?
for me, its not that i want him gone....i just think its time to start looking at building an offense, a way of doing things around another leader.
the point that he has one more year at most is well taken. even the most ardent ben-hater could deal with that. it will be bittersweet. i do hope he kicks ass, actually, but I am glad it will be his last. why not get to the toughest part of this for any legacy team - their once super QB's last days - quicker, so we can (hopefully) get through it faster.
02-24-2021, 11:57 AM
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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why is that?
Mostly because of the salary and cap numbers, but he’s going to restructure his contract like he’s done most all of his career.
What many don’t understand, even those that claim to have watched the Stillers “all my life”, is that the Stillers don’t rebuild. It can be cried about and argued about all day, every day, for the rest of ones life, but that’s not how they do business, and it’s made them one of the most successful franchises in NFL history.
Anyone that insists that Ben is done, and that the Stillers aren’t going anywhere, and truly wants the Stillers to get a high draft pick, should be ecstatic.
02-24-2021, 12:44 PM
Location: On the Chesapeake
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When Bradshaw retired, how many years was it and how many quarterbacks were there until there was a consistent winner?
02-24-2021, 12:53 PM
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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When Bradshaw retired, how many years was it and how many quarterbacks were there until there was a consistent winner?
Bingo
Many folks forget that and a poster suggested that Jim Miller was a great Stillers qb. Miller couldn’t have carried Bens jock on his best day. Neil O’Donnell was the best we’ve had before Ben.
I keep hearing that Rudolph is the Stillers “bridge qb”. While the Stillers could certainly luck into the next Ben, the odds against it are huge.
02-24-2021, 01:50 PM
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When Bradshaw retired, how many years was it and how many quarterbacks were there until there was a consistent winner?
true, but it wasnt just there - they lacked some fleet footed receivers, at times had poor offensive line, average defenses...
O'Donnell actually was an accurate, consistent passer, with a tiny little int. percentage....two picks in the Super Bowl notwithstanding, and the first arguably wasnt even his fault - the receiver did not adjust to the blitz.
02-24-2021, 02:19 PM
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Actually, many fans want Ben gone...and you insist he’s terrible, so it’s the perfect recipe for the #1 draft pick....and you won’t have to wait 14 weeks to criticize him after a loss.
If the Steelers don’t win the super bowl with Ben then what’s the point? Why bring back somebody who doesn’t have a career past this upcoming season? I don’t get it. We aren’t talking about Ben of 2017. We are talking 2020 Ben that is aging rapidly and threw 10 interceptions in his last seven games, also unable to eclipse a passer rating of 90.
02-24-2021, 02:22 PM
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If the Steelers don’t win the super bowl with Ben then what’s the point? Why bring back somebody who doesn’t have a career past this upcoming season? I don’t get it. We aren’t talking about Ben of 2017. We are talking 2020 Ben that is aging rapidly and threw 10 interceptions in his last seven games, also unable to eclipse a passer rating of 90.
Maybe they can get the great Jim Miller to come back.
Pens aren’t going to win the Stanley Cup with Crosby and especially Malkin, who is reported to get an extension soon, so what’s the point?
He also threw 33 touchdowns
02-24-2021, 02:34 PM
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Maybe they can get the great Jim Miller to come back.
Pens aren’t going to win the Stanley Cup with Crosby and especially Malkin, who is reported to get an extension soon, so what’s the point?
He also threw 33 touchdowns
What is the benefit to bringing him back when they have no chance at a Super Bowl and he retires at the end of the season? Why even start him?
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People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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