Local discussion on national election (moving, residential, education)

[Charley Barker]

Originally Posted by erieguy

The Dems have given every reason not to believe a word they say, but that hasn’t stopped people from believing them.

Again, I’ll wager there’s more of this in the future. Are you saying it’s fake?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews...%3fid=73230513

No, I'm saying that President Trump has no credability. As I see state's attorneys and secretaries of state providing evidence I will believe it.

Not to change the direction of the conversation, but the whole handling of China by this administration is typically naive and shortsighted. I hope this is a real discussion in the debates.

We will look back 50 years from now and laugh at the thought of a bilateral trade deal having any bearing at all on the relationship between the would's largest (and communist) country and the free world. As we dick around with a "trade deal", Chinese influence and hegemony on every continent except possibly western Europe has grown ten fold. We should all understand that they are playing a long game that will endure through the next 10 or 20 presedential elections. Read about the Belts and Roads initiative and the $1 TRILLION thry are spending every year to enlarge their trading empire in Africa, South America, SE Asia, and eastern Europe. While we have failed in the past four years to pass a single significant infrastructure appropriation bill for THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES. The TPP was designed as a hedge against Chinese expansion, but this administration declared it DOA, instead of renegotiating it.

I have nothing against China doing what is in China's interests. But make no mistake it is a totalitarian, authoritarian state that will continue to have its way in the world until the US decides to get smart and meet the challenge.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Charley Barker

No, I'm saying that President Trump has no credability. If I see state's attorneys and secretaries of state providing evidence I will believe it.

Not to change the direction of the conversation, but the whole handling of China by this administration is typically naive and shortsighted.

We will look back 50 years from now and laugh at the thought of a bilateral trade deal having any bearing at all on the relationship with the would's largest (and communist) country and the free world. As we dick around with a "trade deal", Chinese influence and hegemony on every continent except possibly western Europe has grown ten fold. We should all understand that they are playing a long game that will endure through the next 10 or 20 presedential elections. Read about the Belts and Roads initiative and the $1 TRILLION thry are spending every year to enlarge their trading empire in Africa, South America, SE Asia, and eastern Europe. While we have failed in the past four years to pass a single infrastructure investment appropriation bill for THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES. The TPP was designed as a hedge against Chinese expansion, but this administration declared it DOA, instead of improving it.

I have nothing against China doing what is in China's interests. But make no mistake it is a totalitarian, authoritarian state that will continue to have its way in the world until the US decides to get smart and meet the challenge.

Lol. You’ve gone from “relatively no corruption” to Trump hate after being asked about ballots that were thrown away, and all for Trump. Doesn’t sound like much credibility there, but please do keep rationalizing the Trump hate....and Biden has done nothing in 40+ years in office, so he has all but no credibility, especially in thinking he’s going to do anything significant for the country.

[Charley Barker]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Lol. You’ve gone from “relatively no corruption” to Trump hate after being asked about ballots that were thrown away, and all for Trump. Doesn’t sound like much credibility there, but please do keep rationalizing the Trump hate....and Biden has done nothing in 40+ years in office, so he has all but no credibility, especially in thinking he’s going to do anything significant for the country.

Don't hate President Trump. Just think he's made really bad decisions. The thread is about the national election, not just voter fraud. I guess we could just keep chasing our tails and talk aboutthat and nothing else.

Do you not think the Chinese are advancing their interests all over the world at our expense?

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Charley Barker

Don't hate President Trump. Just think he's made really bad decisions. The thread is about the national election, not just voter fraud. I guess we could just keep chasing our tails and talk aboutthat and nothing else.

Do you not think the Chinese are advancing their interests all over the world at our expense?

I questioned the fraud. You ignored it due to the link provided and tried to rationalize what you don’t like about Trump, his credibility, etc...

The country has become soft, weak, entitled, etc... The Dems will continue that trend, but please do feel free to explain how Biden will keep China from “advancing their interests at our expense.”

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by erieguy

I questioned the fraud. You ignored it due to the link provided and tried to rationalize what you don’t like about Trump, his credibility, etc...

The country has become soft, weak, entitled, etc... The Dems will continue that trend, but please do feel free to explain how Biden will keep China from “advancing their interests at our expense.”

The only levelheaded people in this country are independent thinkers and not tied to one political party. I believe in having a balanced system of both democrats and republicans. People can have different points of view but the country lacks leadership. Both parties need to meet in the middle. We are a stronger and better nation that way. The AOCs and Trumps in this country need to go. Both set a poor example of what leadership is. The country has become softer under trump just like it became softer under Obama.

On one side you have the far left protesting and using Black Lives Matter as a catch all just to protest. On the other side the MAGA people are angry that their little towns are dying out with no hope for the future, with Washington and the rest of the county not caring they exist. Basically two groups of people providing little or no economic output. And underperforming in life. Two groups that fail to realize this country is the best place in the world no matter who is in charge.

This country doesn’t owe you anything for spending money on a college degree, just like it owes you nothing if you choose to live in small town declining USA.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

The only levelheaded people in this country are independent thinkers and not tied to one political party. I believe in having a balanced system of both democrats and republicans. People can have different points of view but the country lacks leadership. Both parties need to meet in the middle. We are a stronger and better nation that way. The AOCs and Trumps in this country need to go. Both set a poor example of what leadership is. The country has become softer under trump just like it became softer under Obama.

On one side you have the far left protesting and using Black Lives Matter as a catch all just to protest. On the other side the MAGA people are angry that their little towns are dying out with no hope for the future, with Washington and the rest of the county not caring they exist. Basically two groups of people providing little or no economic output. And underperforming in life. Two groups that fail to realize this country is the best place in the world no matter who is in charge.

Thanks. Don’t recall anyone arguing against that and it has zero to do with my statements...but let’s not forget Pelosi, Schumer, etc... Biden is just their puppet who’s closer to assisted living than he is to finishing a Presidential term.

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Thanks. Don’t recall anyone arguing against that and it has zero to do with my statements...but let’s not forget Pelosi, Schumer, etc... Biden is just their puppet who’s closer to assisted living than he is to finishing a Presidential term.

Lol and Donald trump isn’t? He’s 74 and the epitome of a loose cannon.

Mitch McConnell is 78. Mitt Romney is 73.

This country loves to elect out of touch old farts ready for the boneyard.

[stburr91]

Originally Posted by Charley Barker

Not to change the direction of the conversation, but the whole handling of China by this administration is typically naive and shortsighted. I hope this is a real discussion in the debates.

I don't think Joe will want to talk much about China at the debates.


BTW, Nancy Pelosi said again today that Joe shouldn't debate. Nancy clearly doesn't have much confidence that Joe is capable of debating.

Originally Posted by erieguy

The Dems will continue that trend, but please do feel free to explain how Biden will keep China from “advancing their interests at our expense.”

China is praying for a Biden win, they own him.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

Lol and Donald trump isn’t? He’s 74 and the epitome of a loose cannon.

Mitch McConnell is 78. Mitt Romney is 73.

This country loves to elect out of touch old farts ready for the boneyard.

When Trump forgets what he’s saying and has the look of dementia in his eyes, he’ll be in the same position as Biden. Until then, it’s simply Trump hate, which is always quite funny.

[gg]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

Lol and Donald trump isn’t? He’s 74 and the epitome of a loose cannon.

Mitch McConnell is 78. Mitt Romney is 73.

This country loves to elect out of touch old farts ready for the boneyard.

Biden? 77!

Next!

Why are they all old farts? because young people aren't strong enough to lead the best country in the world.