Crime (Pittsburgh: living, housing, deal)

[tyovan4]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Bingo...but many simply don’t want to acknowledge a problem, and often defend criminals being criminals.

Both sides are blind.
Some people blindly defended Antwon.
And now some other people, and the FOP, are blindly defending Paul Abel.
Our society is so horribly divided and biased.

[wpipkins2]

Originally Posted by tyovan4

I'm aware of that fact. I've had beers with Richard Garland. I've listened to Paul Abernathy speak. I'm aware there are good people out there doing important work.

I see the issues as being very similar indeed. The violence is perpetrated by a few bad apples from both groups (the police and the community).. unfortunately, the police look at the whole of the community as being bad. And the community looks at the whole of the police as being bad.
Cops have the 'blue wall of silence' and the community has 'snitches get stitches'.

Both sides need to work better cooperatively with each other to get rid of the bad apples from both groups. The FOP needs reigned in and the good officers need to speak out and get rid of the bad officers, and the community should have more oversight in helping to determine who is a good cop and who is a bad cop. But that being said, gangbanging shouldnt be excused as the adventures of misunderstood, economically disadvantaged youth. The community needs to be more willing to come forward and name names to get the trigger pullers off of the streets.

Get the trigger-pullers off of the streets and get the bad cops off of the force. Both sides have their own roles to play in cleaning up their own messes, but they really do need to work with the other group cooperatively to truly turn around these horrible situations.

Most white people do not know the true definition of a snitch in the street /hood sense anyway.

A snitch is a person involved in crime mainly drug dealing. The drug dealer gets caught and then points the finger at others within his/her organization = Snitch

A person living in a depressed community see something and tell is not a snitch. This person is a community asset. The people living in fear do not "snitch" because they are terrified of the consequence.

Police often times reveal who the informant/snitch is or was. This can result in death. This has happened in Pittsburgh recently. Witnesses are killed prior to testimony. There was a young man shot as he looked out of his bedroom window. He was scheduled to testify and the police did not protect him.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by wpipkins2

Most white people do not know the true definition of a snitch in the street /hood sense anyway.

A snitch is a person involved in crime mainly drug dealing. The drug dealer gets caught and then points the finger at others within his/her organization = Snitch

A person living in a depressed community see something and tell is not a snitch. This person is a community asset. The people living in fear do not "snitch" because they are terrified of the consequence.

Police often times reveal who the informant/snitch is or was. This can result in death. This has happened in Pittsburgh recently. Witnesses are killed prior to testimony. There was a young man shot as he looked out of his bedroom window. He was scheduled to testify and the police did not protect him.

What’s being done to combat this in these neighborhoods? Where’s the community groups, leaders, etc..., to change the culture?

[fat lou]

Originally Posted by PharmGuy

!! Yes and the sky is falling!!

Hey, some people don't like shootings. Maybe you're okay with it, but not everyone is.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by fat lou

Hey, some people don't like shootings. Maybe you're okay with it, but not everyone is.

Folks don’t realize that not everyone shares the same standards of living, especially in areas where crime and shootings are prevalent.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by PharmGuy

!! Yes and the sky is falling!!

If that’s what you want to call it, however, the facts are that crime is up across the country, and as the article says, “ Pittsburgh Violent Crime Incidents Skyrocketing In 2021”.

[fat lou]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Folks don’t realize that not everyone shares the same standards of living, especially in areas where crime and shootings are prevalent.

I know that these new city people like to pretend that they don't care about street crime, but making light of shootings being up 90%? That's a bit much.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by fat lou

I know that these new city people like to pretend that they don't care about street crime, but making light of shootings being up 90%? That's a bit much.

Not everyone wants to admit that where they live is the subject of crime, shootings, homicides, etc...and stats/facts are often unpopular, even though they’re clearly true.

[fat lou]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Not everyone wants to admit that where they live is the subject of crime, shootings, homicides, etc...and stats/facts are often unpopular, even though they’re clearly true.

That isn't a hood person. It's a newcomer who would call the cops if someone shot him a mean look.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by fat lou

That isn't a hood person. It's a newcomer who would call the cops if someone shot him a mean look.

Except someone that doesn’t want to deal with crime isn’t a “hood person”. Many folks have a higher standard of living.

And the cops wouldn’t respond. Big difference between mean looks and homicides, car jackings, violent crimes, etc..., being way up, but rationalization and excuses for the stats are always interesting.