Pittsburgh - don't pretend to be something you're not (Penn: college, live in)

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Copanut

Agreed. I'm amazed how many people celebrate when a Mall goes under. Lot of jobs and tax revenue lost when that happens. Hardly seems a reason to cheer.

Bingo…and interesting how malls make folks angry.

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by PghYinzer

That is not why these places are not open. Do you know the details of Sousas situation? There was a divorce and lagging issues from his other businesses. As for Ace, it is such a viable hotel that Ace is suing to keep it open. Of course you will ignore these facts and rant on about something else, so have at it.

The bottom line is if there was money to be made with those ventures in those locations they would’ve gone on or been replaced. It’s that simple. If there is money to be made something else would be there. It isn’t hard to understand. There isn’t clientele to support the venture at those given locations.

Again if Pittsburgh was so desirable and there was lots of money to be made we wouldn’t be waiting forever for large areas around the city to be developed. You don’t have a huge population here with disposable income to support these nice trendy things. They don’t last long and then the space sits vacant.

Why has the original oyster house lasted 150 years downtown while other high end places close within 5 years? Same deal. It’s good food on the cheap. And you have SCR that wanted to buy in Polish hill but instead bought in Marshall Shadeland he’s educated with a degree, but just couldn’t afford it. And there are thousands of other folks in the same boat. People like these nice neighborhoods and trendy places but the majority of people cannot afford it. And the population that can is too small to sustain it.

[tyovan4]

Maybe both sides will give me grief about this - but shouldn't Gainey's electoral victory be looked at through this prism?

It could certainly be argued that the perception exists that under Peduto the city was branded as 'something that its not'. By that I'm referring to the pandering to the tech industry while kicking industry in the teeth and the lack of support for any mom-and-pop small businesses. Also to the obsession with luxury apartment construction, bike lanes, trendy ultra-modern restaurants, gentrification of certain neighborhoods into playgrounds for rich transplants (ie Lawrenceville, East Liberty), and the basic catering to elites at the expense of run-of-the-mill residents (ie the City's support for the proposed autonomous shuttle between CMU and the Almono site in Hazelwood over the strenuous objections of residents of the Run neighborhood, the secretive sweetheart proposal to Amazon, the failure to take any meaningful action against UPMC, etc, etc).

Much criticism of Peduto's administration could be summed up in the accusation that he was trying to make Pittsburgh pretend to be something that its not.

So, with Gainey.. the elephant in the room is obviously the race issue, and then there is a related issue with policing (Mayor Yukon Cornelius Peduto was cool with BLM protesters burning downtown, but as soon as they got uppity within the bastions of power and privilege within the East End Centre of the Universe's wealthy neighborhoods then Peduto sicced the riot squad on them) ..... but Gainey seems much more focused on the working class and lower class - he has a bottom-up view of economic development.. whereas Peduto focused on attracting rich transplants and took a very top-down view of economic development...

So again, I ask the question - shouldn't Gainey's victory be looked at through the prism of economics and class? It seems as if the majority of Pittsburghers got tired of being ignored and taken for granted while Peduto's team spent 8 years trying to pretend that Pittsburgh was something that its not?

[BUILD PENN SQUARE]

Originally Posted by tyovan4

It seems as if the majority of Pittsburghers got tired of being ignored and taken for granted while Peduto's team spent 8 years trying to pretend that Pittsburgh was something that its not?

and while peduto spent 8 years trying to pretend that HE was something he was not - fake mayor, fake city

[szug-bot]

Originally Posted by BUILD PENN SQUARE

and while peduto spent 8 years trying to pretend that HE was something he was not - fake mayor, fake city

not really, but if it helps you sleep at night....

[BUILD PENN SQUARE]

Originally Posted by szug-bot

not really, but if it helps you sleep at night....

ed gainey - 3 children
luke ravenstahl - 1 child
bob o'connor - 3 children
tom murphy - 3 children
sophie masloff - 1 child
richard caliguiri - 2 children
bill peduto - 0 children

no matter his sexual orientation, electing a mayor without children is like electing a dog catcher who's never had a dog

[Charley Barker]

IDK every time we tried to get in the Ace Hotel for dinner they were booked. I guarantee whatever the outcome between the ownership and the brand, someone will reopen something similarly unique at that site. It's too unique a property in a growing area not to be relaunched.

[eschaton]

Never was inside the Ace, TBH. As a vegan, I was really disappointed that the restaurant inside ended up so meat heavy. One would think the clientele would want vegetarian options.

[norcider]

We slipped to no.3:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...tes/vp-AAKSVTA
Notice Bilgewater, FL or wherever the hell eriguy lives isn't listed in the top 5.

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by BUILD PENN SQUARE

ed gainey - 3 children
luke ravenstahl - 1 child
bob o'connor - 3 children
tom murphy - 3 children
sophie masloff - 1 child
richard caliguiri - 2 children
bill peduto - 0 children

no matter his sexual orientation, electing a mayor without children is like electing a dog catcher who's never had a dog

What does having a child have to do with eligibility to run for elected office?