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Old 06-15-2022, 12:49 PM
 
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Heck, I didn't know Paul Giamatti lived in New Ken, love that guy.

 
Old 06-15-2022, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Lock him up. Too bad the victim wasn’t armed. Could’ve saved himself from getting injured.
 
Old 06-15-2022, 04:31 PM
 
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Let me be the first to call for more control over brick sales and usage.
 
Old 06-16-2022, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Let me be the first to call for more control over brick sales and usage.
but then only criminals will have bricks.

We really need more good guys with bricks out there

Getting teachers to carry bricks should also be a top priority
 
Old 06-16-2022, 06:28 AM
 
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but then only criminals will have bricks.

We really need more good guys with bricks out there

Getting teachers to carry bricks should also be a top priority
stop! there is the right to bear bricks. what part of a 'shall not infringe' on a 'well-regulated army of masons' do people not understand?!?

DONT SNEEZE ON ME!
 
Old 06-16-2022, 07:46 AM
 
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So we are making light of the situation. There is an older man with a brain bleed and skull fractures.
 
Old 06-16-2022, 08:11 AM
 
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Lock him up. Too bad the victim wasn’t armed. Could’ve saved himself from getting injured.
Only if the gun was already in his hand when Perry came into his home.
 
Old 06-16-2022, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Only if the gun was already in his hand when Perry came into his home.
Or in a holster
 
Old 06-16-2022, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Etna, PA
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Only if the gun was already in his hand when Perry came into his home.
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Or in a holster
Not true, neither of you know the law in this case.

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Title 18, Section 505

(2) The use of deadly force is not justifiable under this section unless the actor believes that such force is necessary to protect himself against death, serious bodily injury, kidnapping or sexual intercourse compelled by force or threat; nor is it justifiable if:

(i) the actor, with the intent of causing death or serious bodily injury, provoked the use of force against himself in the same encounter; or

(ii) the actor knows that he can avoid the necessity of using such force with complete safety by retreating, except the actor is not obliged to retreat from his dwelling or place of work, unless he was the initial aggressor or is assailed in his place of work by another person whose place of work the actor knows it to be.

(2.1) Except as otherwise provided in paragraph (2.2), an actor is presumed to have a reasonable belief that deadly force is immediately necessary to protect himself against death, serious bodily injury, kidnapping or sexual intercourse compelled by force or threat if both of the following conditions exist:

(i) The person against whom the force is used is in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or has unlawfully and forcefully entered and is present within, a dwelling, residence or occupied vehicle; or the person against whom the force is used is or is attempting to unlawfully and forcefully remove another against that other's will from the dwelling, residence or occupied vehicle.

(ii) The actor knows or has reason to believe that the unlawful and forceful entry or act is occurring or has occurred.


(2.2) The presumption set forth in paragraph (2.1) does not apply if:

(i) the person against whom the force is used has the right to be in or is a lawful resident of the dwelling, residence or vehicle, such as an owner or lessee;

(ii) the person sought to be removed is a child or grandchild or is otherwise in the lawful custody or under the lawful guardianship of the person against whom the protective force is used;

(iii) the actor is engaged in a criminal activity or is using the dwelling, residence or occupied vehicle to further a criminal activity; or

(iv) the person against whom the force is used is a peace officer acting in the performance of his official duties and the actor using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a peace officer.

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/L...5.005.000..HTM
If you break into someones house in this state, you can legally be shot by them even if youre unarmed. They have the right to presume that deadly force is necessary to protect themselves.
 
Old 06-16-2022, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Not true, neither of you know the law in this case.



If you break into someones house in this state, you can legally be shot by them even if youre unarmed. They have the right to presume that deadly force is necessary to protect themselves.
Bingo…and I’m talking about if the victim was armed or had a gun in his holster he could’ve been able to shoot the attacker.
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