Pittsburgh: Midwest vibe in a Mid-Atlantic state? (Indiana, Monongahela: beach, population)

[trackstar13]

The pizza is too good in Pittsburgh for it to be considered Midwestern.

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by theMcast

You can't really put West Virginia in any specific region.

Other than Appalachian.

[Bellic]

Originally Posted by theMcast

You can't really put West Virginia in any specific region.

It's a bit in the middle of everything, most of it anyway. The northern section of the state should be part of Pennsylvania anyway but you can thank history/charter f ups for it being saddled to the rest of WV. Used to live in Weirton, parents still do - culturally, it is absolutely identical to western PA/Pittsburgh, the people, architecture, food, etc although when it comes to football there's probably more WVU fans. I know college hockey isn't a big deal to most but there were a nice sect of RMU fans there too. (was going to say RIP RMU hockey but I think they are bringing it back now that the genius that got rid of it left)

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by Bellic

It's a bit in the middle of everything, most of it anyway. The northern section of the state should be part of Pennsylvania anyway but you can thank history/charter f ups for it being saddled to the rest of WV. Used to live in Weirton, parents still do - culturally, it is absolutely identical to western PA/Pittsburgh, the people, architecture, food, etc although when it comes to football there's probably more WVU fans. I know college hockey isn't a big deal to most but there were a nice sect of RMU fans there too. (was going to say RIP RMU hockey but I think they are bringing it back now that the genius that got rid of it left)

It’s part of the Pittsburgh, Weirton, New Castle CSA. Lawrence and Indiana Counties in Pa.

Wheeling is omitted and so is East Liverpool and St. Clairsville Ohio. Those areas are totally Pittsburgh.

I couldn’t agree more. Steubenville’s marketing slogan was the burb of the burgh. Good post!


https://www2.census.gov/geo/maps/eco...M200US430M.pdf

[g555]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

I think Ohio’s classification of being Midwest is incorrect. It’s east like Pittsburgh. Ohio is the only “midwestern”state 100% in the eastern time zone.

I view it by distances to major city. Cleveland and the other OH cities are closer to Chicago than it is to DC/PHL/NYC, whereas Pittsburgh is closer to the DC/ NYC over Chicago.

You’ll find Megabus or Greyhound bus services and likely ridership between Pit and east, and between Cleveland and Chicago but it’s too long as a trip between Pitt and Chicago, or Cleveland and DC/NYC

[theMcast]

Originally Posted by amattaro

Western PA is Appalachia. Embrace the West Virginia brethren.

Appalachia. That makes more sense now that I think about those steep-ass streets.

[Reggiezz]

Originally Posted by theMcast

Appalachia. That makes more sense now that I think about those steep-ass streets.

Our hills aren't related to the Appalachian mountains.

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by Bellic

It's a bit in the middle of everything, most of it anyway. The northern section of the state should be part of Pennsylvania anyway but you can thank history/charter f ups for it being saddled to the rest of WV. Used to live in Weirton, parents still do - culturally, it is absolutely identical to western PA/Pittsburgh, the people, architecture, food, etc although when it comes to football there's probably more WVU fans. I know college hockey isn't a big deal to most but there were a nice sect of RMU fans there too. (was going to say RIP RMU hockey but I think they are bringing it back now that the genius that got rid of it left)

Back in day the original state line between Virginia and PA proposed was the three rivers. Everything south and west of the Allegheny and Mon river was going to be Virginia. Everything north and east was going to be PA. The Northside would’ve been in Pennsylvania while downtown Pittsburgh and the rest of the city would’ve been in Virginia ( West Virginia present day)

http://www.virginiaplaces.org/bounda...aboundary.html

[qwerty01]

Originally Posted by Reggiezz

Our hills aren't related to the Appalachian mountains.

They are absolutely part of the Appalachian Mountain Range. Pittsburgh sits on the Allegheny Plateau, which is the western portion of the range.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegheny_Plateau

[Chi-town]

Originally Posted by Jbraybarten65

Cleveland is more midwestern... culturally and structurally.

Part yes and part no.

Title: Northeast Ohio is Built Like New England Because It Used to Be Owned by Connecticut.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/article...by-connecticut

From the link.

In America's early years on Cleveland and their New England link.

- what is now Northeast Ohio belonged to Connecticut, and in the late 1700s and early 1800s, Connecticut transplants gave Ohio many of its names, institutions, traditions, and people, into what was then called the Connecticut Western Reserve.
- From architecture to namesakes and that legacy remains apparent to this day, not just in place names.


On any Pittsburgh-likeness with Chicago (not topography).

- the cities have very similar foods, in part because of the immigrant groups that settled in both cities from Poland, Germany and Ireland.
- Pierogies are available everywhere, especially on the south side of Chicago, and “pierogies are famous here” in Pittsburgh.
- the same goes for sausages and you get the same feeling from the people and the food scene is like a mini-Chicago.

Other tidbits of Pittsburghers:

- professional sports teams are more closely aligned with the Midwest.
- behave more like people from the midwest than they do like people from the east coast.
- but it’s culturally more like the midwest.
- have many things in that are unique to this city
- built more as the Northeast and Architecture.

Most fall into the following

- No one in the Midwest considers Pittsburgh to be part of the Midwest.
- No one in Pittsburgh considers themselves to be part of the Midwest either.
- The only people who classify Pittsburgh as part of the Midwest are Northeasterners who don't think Pittsburgh quite fits in with them and assume it that the only alternative is that Pittsburgh must be Midwestern.
- You could say that it is similar to Ohio because of the Rust Belt ties but Ohio represents the easternmost border of the Midwest.

- Ultimately, Pittsburgh isn't really part of either region. But it's closer to a Northeastern city for historical and modern day cultural regions than a Midwestern one.

Awwww and the Soft Drink map by county and color coded. Pittsburgh and western PA oppsing the Northeast and Eastern PA.

https://images.huffingtonpost.com/20...t3.05.00PM.png

IMO, It is those on the East Coast/Northeasterners who throw Pittsburgh into the Midwest. ESPECIALLY PHILADELPHIANS. Don't blame Midwesterners.

Also it seems that Pittsburgh is very much a hybrid city. It's Northeastern and Midwestern and Appalachian all at once without being any of them individually.