What to do with the Hill? (Denver, Mexico: violent crime, to live in, costs)

[creepsinc]

Originally Posted by Katiana

As I said several times over, it wasn't so much rape and murder as the illogic of the statement "people are going to do drugs anyway, so let's just legalize them". I also said I wasn't a supporter of the "war on drugs". Drugs are a problem when people become addicted, and then they and their families become society's problem to support. I do not support legalizing anything else.

Prostitution. I've never paid or been paid for sex, but it seems that legalization and regulation would go a long way toward solving the obvious problems of the world's oldest profession. Textbook example of something that will always be done, so why not make it legal and safer. While I don't feel like going and retrieving statistics, STD rates in Nevada brothels are pretty low compared to anywhere else sex is sold. Like drugs, prostitution should be removed from the streets and the world would be a much better place.

I just sucker-punched the tough guy in the bar. Now I'm slipping out the back door, I've said all I need to say on this subject.

[Chuckles1821]

As I said several times over, it wasn't so much rape and murder as the illogic of the statement "people are going to do drugs anyway, so let's just legalize them".

I am the poster who made that statement - in my post I said since people are going to do it anyway, let's make some money off of it.
What if it was a law that no one was allowed to wear stilettos... and then some people still wore them. I would say, well if they pay a high tax on the stilettos, I am okay with it since they are just going to be the ones that have to deal with the blisters.
I didn't suggest that all illegal activity should be legal because people would do it anyway; I simply said that in this case I think it should be legal and people are going to do it anyway.

[creepsinc]

Originally Posted by Chuckles1821

I am the poster who made that statement - in my post I said since people are going to do it anyway, let's make some money off of it.
What if it was a law that no one was allowed to wear stilettos... and then some people still wore them. I would say, well if they pay a high tax on the stilettos, I am okay with it since they are just going to be the ones that have to deal with the blisters.
I didn't suggest that all illegal activity should be legal because people would do it anyway; I simply said that in this case I think it should be legal and people are going to do it anyway.

Stilettos don't kill people, people kill people.

[Chuckles1821]

And that's why you regulate the stilettos - maybe only two inch heels instead of four inchers!

[creepsinc]

Originally Posted by Chuckles1821

And that's why you regulate the stilettos - maybe only two inch heels instead of four inchers!

While I find four inches excessive, it's a slippery slope to draw the line. Legalization, not decriminalization. All shoes should be legal, except maybe Birkenstocks. No, all shoes.

[Katarina Witt]

Prostituion: I have heard this rap about "victimless crimes" before. It turns out that prostitution is NOT such a victimless crime after all, and it is often the prostitute who is the victim. If you guys think legalizing something that is now illegal is going to put the crooks and criminals out of business, you are quite naive. They always seem to find a racket.

PS: Grow up, guys!

[creepsinc]

Originally Posted by Katiana

Prostituion: I have heard this rap about "victimless crimes" before. It turns out that prostitution is NOT such a victimless crime after all, and it is often the prostitute who is the victim. If you guys think legalizing something that is now illegal is going to put the crooks and criminals out of business, you are quite naive. They always seem to find a racket.

PS: Grow up, guys!

I haven't seen any overt signs of immaturity here, so I don't know what "grow up guys" is all about.

Prostitution as a victimless crime can be argued till the cows come home, but it's still a transaction between two consenting adults. Legalization would remove the pimp from the equation. There's nothing naive about that.

There are no two groups more destructive to civilized, free society than liberals and conservatives. Come back, George Carlin!

[BrianTH]

Originally Posted by Katiana

I also said I wasn't a supporter of the "war on drugs". . . . I do not support legalizing anything else.

But that is my point: our ongoing "war on drugs" is a direct product of making the relevant drugs illegal, and conversely if you give up on trying to enforce those laws you are de facto legalizing the relevant drugs.

[creepsinc]

Skydiving is extremely risky behavior, and the possibility of someone with a faulty parachute landing on me makes it a sensible candidate for banning. The pursuit of happiness is a strange and winding road, but a dusty old document in the country in which I was born guarantees it for me. Why is it so hard for people to understand?

One day, this country will either be a theocracy or a nanny state and I'm not sure which would be worse.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by creepsinc

I haven't seen any overt signs of immaturity here, so I don't know what "grow up guys" is all about.

The thing about the stiletto heels.

Prostitution as a victimless crime can be argued till the cows come home, but it's still a transaction between two consenting adults. Legalization would remove the pimp from the equation. There's nothing naive about that.

There are no two groups more destructive to civilized, free society than liberals and conservatives. Come back, George Carlin!

Well, maybe. Most people work for busineses, whether they are physicists or prostitues. Someone has to run the show, recruit the employees, etc. And if prostitution became legal, the crooks would find something else illegal to do. Last time I checked, Nevada was not a crime-free state.